As a Utahn I don’t want to pay for it in taxes

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May 18, 2022
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D.T. Survivor

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UVU needs an FCS level football team. It's time.

Hotlanta

5/18/22 1:00pm

Given the startup & operating costs, it’s an asinine idea.

RdF3

5/18/22 1:01pm

For context, you’re looking at about $150M to even start the team.

RdF3

5/18/22 1:06pm

150 million for what? Its an FCS. It would be along the same lines as a high

AltTabbins

5/18/22 2:59pm

Stadium, locker rooms, practice fields, food/nutrition, training, coaches,....

Benfica1

5/18/22 3:16pm

You could maybe say that about D2 or D3

fattycoug

5/18/22 3:54pm

UVU tuition =$6K in-state/$17K out-of-state. So $378K-$1.07M for 63 schollies

Doogal McCougar

5/18/22 4:18pm

Those are quite literally not HS #s. I don't know if $150M is correct

fattycoug

5/18/22 5:04pm

Stop beating around the bush and get to the point please.

Acorn

5/18/22 1:38pm

I think most utah valley recruits would rather stay in Provo/Orem as well

GlutealGuy

5/18/22 1:02pm

Make it BYJVU. Transfer up the good kids

RealSimsShadY

5/18/22 1:05pm

I'd rather see BYU-Idaho with a FCS team

thewaterboy

5/18/22 1:05pm

They have property for a stadium in Vineyard, but nowhere near the funds to build and maintain a program.

Turnpike Lane

5/18/22 1:06pm

this... plus UVU wants a different identity...

1984coug

5/18/22 1:08pm

lacrosse?

CrashMcLarson

5/18/22 1:10pm

UVU lacrosse is in the same club conference as BYU

LiveCoug

5/18/22 1:16pm

I thought they were d1- my mistake!

1984coug

5/18/22 1:34pm

utah is (would have been BYU but the eschewed the offer given by the person

fattycoug

5/18/22 1:44pm

uncle Neeleman?

Str8CashCougar

5/18/22 3:27pm

They need student housing & learning space

BYU'01

5/18/22 2:19pm

Learning space?

crazY

5/18/22 2:41pm

Classrooms, labs, group study rooms, etc. The student population is growing.

BYU'01

5/18/22 3:11pm

They've invested millions of dollars into learning spaces over the past decade

crazY

5/18/22 4:05pm

Why would they need a stadium? A lot of FCS teams use shared turf. They could

AltTabbins

5/18/22 3:00pm

How many 40,000 + student universities are there in FCS?

Big12Yfan

5/18/22 1:07pm

RE: How many 40,000 + student universities are there in FCS?

fresnoa

5/18/22 1:11pm

I work for UVU and if you are implying all the students are idiots you’re wrong

Big12Yfan

5/18/22 1:17pm

Nobody thinks that

ExitStageLeft

5/18/22 1:26pm

Never said that

fresnoa

5/18/22 2:19pm

I went to both byu and uvu. I enjoyed a lot of things at uvu but

ColonelMustard

5/18/22 2:46pm

I am in the PFP program, bet we crossed paths!

Pappyjord

5/18/22 4:11pm

UVU is an open enrollment school. The only entrance requirements are basically

NYC and Japan

5/18/22 3:11pm

Meh

Marc Spector

5/18/22 1:10pm

Is this a reverse? If not, well done, it's still hilarious anyway.

RockyBalboa

5/18/22 1:10pm

Conversation with someone at the top, 5 or so years ago. Was able to have a casual conversation with them and in that

Jimo Dashen

5/18/22 1:13pm

It’s because the state legislature is not going to pony up for football

Big12Yfan

5/18/22 1:21pm

As a Utahn I don’t want to pay for it in taxes

D.T. Survivor

5/18/22 1:19pm

So ... they can go in the red and charge students fees to cover it? Like others?

runnincoug

5/18/22 1:25pm

3 FBS schools and 3 FCS schools already seem like a lot for a state with 3.4 mil

BlueMark

5/18/22 1:35pm

it is a lot. And it's great for the kids. if it wasn't so cost prohibitive, it

fattycoug

5/18/22 1:43pm

Nope. Don’t want the taxes. Don’t want the traffic. Don’t want another team.

canofpicante

5/18/22 1:41pm

Lol. The traffic. For 6 Saturdays a year. For like 8-10k people

LiveCoug

5/18/22 1:46pm

Build a stadium and it’ll be used for everything under the sun. Forget it.

canofpicante

5/19/22 8:03am

Traffic? 6 days a year? Is this a joke?

Hotlanta

5/18/22 1:47pm

Do you pay taxes?

Bullrider

5/18/22 1:47pm

No thanks. Not on my dime. More than 1/2 the kids on FCS rosters = non-Utahns

Captain Stubing

5/18/22 1:57pm

I wonder if for startup purposes (to not have to make a huge capital investment)

SpecialT

5/18/22 1:57pm

Posted a take on this a while back. I think it's a great idea!

Cougs4Lfe

5/18/22 2:35pm

Uvu averages 2200 fans/game at basketball games. It isn’t happening.

RdF3

5/18/22 2:38pm

Hey, they get around 5k when they play on different nights than BYU

RealSimsShadY

5/18/22 2:39pm

There are several stadiums in the FCS that only have 2500 capacity. You are

AltTabbins

5/18/22 3:01pm

What FCS stadiums only have 2,500 capacity?

RdF3

5/18/22 3:25pm

There are 2 under 2500 - Duquesne 2200 and Stonehill 2400.

molodyets

5/18/22 5:26pm

Capacity doesn't mean you fill every seat. Most FCS games are 1/3 full unless

AltTabbins

5/18/22 9:15pm

More than utah averages

GlutealGuy

5/18/22 3:05pm

RE: More than utah averages

Solomon Levi

5/18/22 11:06pm

Football is great marketing for a university

Doogal McCougar

5/18/22 3:00pm

UTech is in the WAC alongside UVU with 1/2 the endowment and 1/3 the students

Hotlanta

5/18/22 3:04pm

subsidies and student fees that are double what UVU's are.

molodyets

5/18/22 5:29pm

I bet it would be on par with Rick's college football.

Pangare

5/18/22 3:23pm

Why?

Mitty

5/18/22 7:41pm

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