You can remove the particularly undergrad qualifier.*

Jul 3, 2022
10:35:15am

Dryfire Contributor

The larger grad programs at BYU (Law, MBA, & MACC). Are substantially better than the corresponding programs at the UofU.

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Post made on Utah & Oregon Board by Baylor fan

BUBearsFan72

7/3/22 5:29am

Well done- one point of difference is the academics of the PAC. They are all

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 5:56am

RE: Well done- one point of difference is the academics of the PAC. They are all

BUBearsFan72

7/3/22 6:09am

You just posted it on Utah's board. There are more of them on CB than any UU

Dryfire

7/3/22 9:56am

Washington is a far better school than BYU or Baylor

Hotlanta

7/3/22 6:28am

RE: Washington is a far better school than BYU or Baylor

BUBearsFan72

7/3/22 6:33am

Lots of lists out there.

Taccoug

7/3/22 7:00am

In US News, it’s UW #59, Baylor 75, BYU 79, UofU #99

AF Cougar

7/3/22 7:24am

Haha no no it’s not. On par with BYU where we align & Baylor is just better

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 6:34am

I’ve never seen byu or Baylor ranked ahead of UW.

Taccoug

7/3/22 6:57am

If that’s the case I know ranks are even more ridiculous than I thought

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 7:03am

Rankings can be dumb but UW is a highly ranked university by any measure.

Taccoug

7/3/22 7:07am

I didn’t say it wasn’t. I said it wasn’t better than BYU or Baylor.& Baylor is

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 8:01am

"BYU is clearly better, based on every 'reasonable' ranking (you know it's unreasonable if BYU isn't ahead)"

krindorr

7/3/22 7:52am

You’re attributing that quote to me?

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 8:02am

No, I'm saying it's the general attitude we have here towards rankings

krindorr

7/3/22 8:07am

I agree- however if you knew how the rankings you shared were created you’d have

SouthernBlueBlood

7/3/22 8:22am

I'm in academia and those around me do think more highly of Washington

krindorr

7/3/22 8:39am

Your last sentence is a weird thing to say when the majority of national lists

Salami Karate

7/3/22 8:48am

You are the first person I’ve heard say Baylor is better than Washington.

Taccoug

7/3/22 9:03am

You can remove the particularly undergrad qualifier.*

Dryfire

7/3/22 10:35am

...the best BYU grad programs are better than their equivalents at Utah. And the best Utah grad programs are better than

krindorr

7/3/22 10:53am

You would be wrong in thinking that. BYU doesn't have a medical school so it

Dryfire

7/3/22 11:23am

Ok, just last I checked Utah was ahead in Math, Physics, Chemistry, CompSci, Engineering, Bio, History, English...

krindorr

7/3/22 11:34am

Anecdotally I have to assume BYU language programs are well ahead of the U,

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 11:51am

Oh, I'd certainly assume so. Couldn't find language programs ranked there, but would assume BYU is among best in US

krindorr

7/3/22 11:55am

All of those are tiny grad programs at BYU with no more than a few grad students

Dryfire

7/3/22 11:59am

So your argument is that BYU just doesn't do STEM grad? That's kind of an argument against strong graduate school

krindorr

7/3/22 12:04pm

It's not a focus for BYU. There is limited space at BYU and the focus has been

Dryfire

7/3/22 12:18pm

That's kind of my point - BYU isn't particularly strong as a graduate school option

krindorr

7/3/22 12:30pm

Wrong. The MBA, Law, and MACC are all good grad programs.

Dryfire

7/3/22 12:34pm

Sorry, not saying NO BYU grad programs are good, just that the overall depth isn't there

krindorr

7/3/22 12:58pm

US News Law Schools: BYU #22, UW #36; WSJ B-School: BYU #27, UW #37. Undergrad

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 8:58am

Yeah, once you get into grad things get different. For example ASU has very strong law and business programs

krindorr

7/3/22 11:17am

For sure. My post was a reaction to Taccoug never seeing BYU ranked above UW.

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 11:47am

I was talking overall ranking. As an accounting grad I know byu>UW in accounting

Taccoug

7/3/22 12:00pm

Okay. I can buy overall ranking although I would bet objective measures like ACT

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 3:34pm

Just a quick Google on ACT has Washington ahead (but not by much)

krindorr

7/3/22 3:39pm

Thx. Very comparable. In the same echelon. Surprised UW is slightly higher but

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 4:06pm

Yeah, people underrate Washington

krindorr

7/3/22 4:57pm

We're in agreement. I never put UW close to elite state schools like UVa, Cal,

Forzaitalia

7/3/22 6:19pm

Maybe at one time it was…

Refugee

7/3/22 6:57am

Nope

Mitty

7/3/22 10:10am

I hate UW but I respect it. Solid school.

runningryan

7/3/22 5:59pm

They aren’t ALL great schools. None of the ‘states’ have great academic rankings

moknowssports

7/3/22 10:16am

You can add Oregon and Utah to that list. Not great academically.

Dryfire

7/3/22 10:43am

Let us know if you get responses in complete sentences from any of them.

Junior Deputy

7/3/22 7:00am

This is utahs message board, so you posted at the right place

Cougforgood

7/3/22 8:06am

Almost no PAC 12 schools are a “fit”

Vert der Frick

7/3/22 10:11am

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Suguaro Sam

7/3/22 10:53am

Ute with a surprisingly coherent response

MojosDojo

7/3/22 11:50am

As i’ve said previously,

MojosDojo

7/3/22 11:52am

50 years ago is “recent?” Also, Utah fans priding themselves on the academic

Pierre Delecto

7/3/22 12:34pm

"like when BYU had no black players"... huh?

HandwovenBox

7/3/22 4:29pm

Would be awesome to see the AZ schools in B12

Srg

7/3/22 2:20pm

Adding UA to B12 bball would be unreal...and as a golfer adding ASU would be spectacular too....

HarlemCoug

7/3/22 2:46pm

You don't want Utah. BYU will dominate the tv market with or without Utah. If Utah stays p12 then 33% of their fans join

HarlemCoug

7/3/22 2:45pm

Those yewt freaks are delusional

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