RE: Rivian offers OTA updates - FYI. As Backcountry said, range is the real issue.

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Oct 5, 2022
10:17:05am

TheLost

RE: Rivian offers OTA updates - FYI. As Backcountry said, range is the real issue.

We could’ve made a 600 mile Model S 12 months ago, but that would’ve made the product worse imo, as 99.9% of time you’d be carrying unneeded battery mass, which makes acceleration, handling & efficiency worse. Even our 400+ mile range car is more than almost anyone will use.
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 2, 2022

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TheLost

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The real issue with EV's... Its not a hardware problem, its a software issue.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:05am

Real issue with me is range. They simple arent practical.

Backcountry

10/5/22 10:08am

How so? please explain..

TheLost

10/5/22 10:09am

The range. Its not good enough. Battery die, car stop rolling

Backcountry

10/5/22 10:10am

So you drive over 300 miles in a day? Or can't stop to charge for 5-10 minutes?

TheLost

10/5/22 10:10am

Correct. Frequently. The most common "long drive" I make, and I make it a lot,

Backcountry

10/5/22 10:15am

IMO, it's more about range being comparable (or better) than ICE vehicles so

m0resn0w

10/5/22 10:15am

My wife and I share one car, I work from home.

rad dawg

10/5/22 10:17am

RE: My wife and I share one car, I work from home.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:23am

$80k at least for that car. And not sure what this image is supposed to show?

rad dawg

10/5/22 11:35am

5 -10 minutes? You serious? And what about locations?

LifeLongLakerFan

10/5/22 10:17am

It depends on where you are going..

TheLost

10/5/22 10:21am

Towing range is about 90 miles at the moment. And when not towing, I live in

diluigifan

10/5/22 10:24am

RE: How so? please explain..

SierraCoug

10/5/22 10:14am

Um. We have a '21 Ford Mach-E. It has received OTA updates since day one.

benMN

10/5/22 10:10am

*Mustang Mach-E. Please show some respect for history.

Mzansi

10/5/22 10:13am

Haha. #CharacterLimits.

benMN

10/5/22 10:26am

I missed that.. looks like the first updates started in 2021.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:15am

Sorry, but I need to safely park my vehicle in the garage.

Les IsMore

10/5/22 10:13am

Rivian offers OTA updates - FYI. As Backcountry said, range is the real issue.

m0resn0w

10/5/22 10:13am

RE: Rivian offers OTA updates - FYI. As Backcountry said, range is the real issue.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:17am

Current manufacturers are claiming (and I'm not 100% sold) that they're making

m0resn0w

10/5/22 10:20am

And when you say 500 mile per range...that needs to be 500 miles on the highway, not local driving. I would never

specsauce

10/5/22 11:39am

New auto mechanic

PJMort

10/5/22 10:18am

More truth to this than we'd maybe like to admit. And not just EVs...

m0resn0w

10/5/22 10:20am

That Hummer reset is completely stupid.

Ragnar Danneskjold

10/5/22 10:29am

As a runner, I think that cars need to make noise to be safer in residential str

ovalY

10/5/22 10:36am

As of 2018 EV's have to make a noise going slower than 30mph.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:40am

Also, batteries degrade over time, big hardware issue there

semicool

10/5/22 10:38am

This is one of those 'yes, thats true'.. but also 'not really an issue'.

TheLost

10/5/22 10:45am

I'm sorry, but some of the batteries have lost more than 20% capacity, ~50%

semicool

10/5/22 11:19am

RE: I'm sorry, but some of the batteries have lost more than 20% capacity, ~50%

TheLost

10/5/22 11:35am

Ridiculous, asinine, a Tesla battery full replacement is $20-35 THOUSAND dollars

semicool

10/5/22 12:15pm

RE: Ridiculous, asinine, a Tesla battery full replacement is $20-35 THOUSAND dollars

TheLost

10/5/22 2:50pm

RE: Ridiculous, asinine, a Tesla battery full replacement is $20-35 THOUSAND

m0resn0w

10/5/22 2:52pm

The only place Ive heard these types of stats on Tesla battery degradation is CB

boorad

10/5/22 12:27pm

Cool, I've heard it from Tesla owners

semicool

10/5/22 1:54pm

I've never heard that before. I know it was a concern when the Model S was

boorad

10/5/22 2:14pm

We have a Prius Prime Plus. It gas and electric. I can get to work and back on

VDUB_COUG

10/5/22 10:50am

If I could get my hands on a PHEV Rav4 without waiting forever and getting bent

m0resn0w

10/5/22 10:54am

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