I would recommend searching for Big Island (Hawaii) and BP, ExxonMobil and biodiesel to start.

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Jan 28, 2023
10:10:54am

Division Bell Voted best poster 3 years in a

I would recommend searching for Big Island (Hawaii) and BP, ExxonMobil and biodiesel to start.

Good luck. They've been fairly successful at keeping a lid on their successes over the years. It's slowed down significantly over the last 5 years now that they've achieved what they wanted, and a number of researchers were laid off.

I'd probably give articles 10-15 years ago more weight than more recent (e.g. scrubbed) ones.

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Division Bell

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EV at Baker

Division Bell Voted best poster 3 years in a

1/28/23 12:32am

This is why you don’t road trip with an EV

Ungoy

1/28/23 12:44am

Yep. That way everyone can buy two cars instead of just one. A realistic daily driver and a primping virtue one.

1/28/23 9:06am

EV convention

panacablue

1/28/23 5:08am

Coming to your town soon! Get in line while the getting is good.

1/28/23 9:17am

Weren't 19% of new cars in california EVs. . .

Zoobieman

1/28/23 9:54am

A study last year concluded that CA would need a huge number of new power plants just to meet the EV need.

1/28/23 10:00am

Just use the CCS adapter and get on another network in California.

Zoobieman

1/28/23 5:17am

Nice to see people treat fossil fuels like the very finite resources they are.

1/28/23 5:42am

RE: Nice to see people treat fossil fuels like the very finite resources they

panacablue

1/28/23 6:16am

I don’t care about the environment, I care about flying.

1/28/23 8:28am

No, you care about politics.

panacablue

1/28/23 8:52am

I actually do, I’ve only voted democrat once….

1/28/23 9:03am

So you prefer the lower thermal efficiency and higher pollution rate of the Brayton cycle over the Otto cycle? Got it.

1/28/23 9:29am

You got any good articles on these bacterial strains? Would love to read them!

1/28/23 10:02am

I would recommend searching for Big Island (Hawaii) and BP, ExxonMobil and biodiesel to start.

1/28/23 10:10am

How’s that electricity being generated that they’re charging their car with?

Ungoy

1/28/23 6:22am

yeah, we can always find something to burn. We can’t power a Jet with coal….

1/28/23 8:34am

Yeah because it’s always political. Good day to you and good bye.

Ungoy

1/28/23 8:44am

That’s exactly it. If we left politics out of it I’d hope the discussion would

1/28/23 8:48am

The only one bringing politics into it is you.

Ungoy

1/28/23 8:53am

This whole thread is political! A social media post about EV owners being idiots

1/28/23 9:16am

If you want a legitimate discussion then get educated on energy sources, challenges and solutions for each thermodynamic

1/28/23 9:36am

The dude has a non-political point. EVs can run on any fuel source.

Zoobieman

1/28/23 8:58am

Read his posts again. He’s all about politics.

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:02am

Dude, I’m republican, I hate taxes, I

1/28/23 9:09am

Nobody on this thread brought up politics until you did. Fact.

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:23am

You deny the OP is political..

1/28/23 9:31am

I believe you’re the one pouting. Here’s your L. Have fun.

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:36am

Yes. I deny it. It was my post. My friends who make trips to Vegas constantly complain about the wait to recharge their

1/28/23 9:40am

RE: Yes. I deny it. It was my post. My friends who make trips to Vegas

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:42am

You guys got lucky. I know from experience every EV post on here is a

1/28/23 9:50am

So drop the politics and address the science. . . It really is that simple

Zoobieman

1/28/23 9:27am

The science is that our grid can’t sustain a mass switch to EVs

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:32am

The government will do what ever is politically expedient. If getting re-elected

1/28/23 9:40am

You probably aren't referring to the specific cars in the OP but if you were

Cheap Seats

1/28/23 8:37am

RE: Nice to see people treat fossil fuels like the very finite resources they

JohnnyC

1/28/23 6:51am

Is that what it says in the Tesla owners manual?

stenso

1/28/23 7:38am

RE: Nice to see people treat fossil fuels like the very finite resources they are.

1/28/23 8:59am

How much coal getting burned up through Baker every day?

Squirt

1/28/23 6:05am

For CA: coal used to generate electricity both in state and imported is a whopping 9.7% of the total mix. So…not a lot.

1/28/23 8:35am

There's a big chunk of energy imports that's "unknown," so it's almost certainly higher than that though

Mike Honcho

1/28/23 8:43am

Who cares where energy comes from as long as we can always have it.

1/28/23 8:50am

Good thing we can generate electricity with infinite methods

GA_Coug

1/28/23 8:51am

Baker California is mostly solar powered.

Zoobieman

1/28/23 8:59am

Comments suggest the wait is rather short.

1/28/23 7:46am

Shhh burnin oil is a conservative thing,

1/28/23 8:42am

I don’t drive an EV yet for several reasons. None of them are political.

Ungoy

1/28/23 9:18am

Correction - No EVs get the range their ICE counterparts have.

Zoobieman

1/28/23 9:39am

Everyone I know wants an EV. I think it’s funny there’s a “conservatives are

DiamondMo

1/28/23 9:43am

Interesting thing for me. I think a Tesla is better in the country, not city.

Zoobieman

1/28/23 10:08am

I agree, EV’s are only good commuters/every day cars. They can’t tow, I doubt

1/28/23 9:44am

Motortrend’s experience non Tesla cars was even worse.

JWin

1/28/23 8:13am

I don't know why everyone dogs on CCS. . . They work great!

Zoobieman

1/28/23 9:00am

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