USF was a tourney team last year— they are sub 100 this year.

Jan 29, 2023
9:25:52am

Mr. Scoobs All-American

How are you measuring “best the wcc has ever been”?

No objective measurements or rankings support that claim. It’s Gonzaga, st Mary’s and a couple fringe 100 teams. Definitely worse compared with just last year.

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Mr. Scoobs

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lbmango

1/29/23 8:32am

BYU is 7th in the WCC. They were predicted to finish 3rd.

Mr. Scoobs

1/29/23 8:35am

But don't forget the expectations of success when 1st joining the WCC.

DoseOfReality

1/29/23 9:09am

Going into the B12 I wish I could take heart in bball or FB. Rutgers, Nebraska,

Forzaitalia

1/29/23 11:43am

Zags took a half step back yes. But a few other teams have taken a full step forward as well. This is far and away the

RoaroftheCougartails

1/29/23 9:18am

USF was a tourney team last year— they are sub 100 this year.

Mr. Scoobs

1/29/23 9:25am

And they also crushed ASU on the road by 40, and beat UNLV at the T/M.

TheDash

1/29/23 1:18pm

They’ve had some good games but to say they are better than last year is false

Mr. Scoobs

1/29/23 3:17pm

The key to a season like this is keeping everyone around. If we have a mass exodus like last year, it will be pointless.

cougarfanatic

1/29/23 8:36am

Who else left besides Lohner?

Julius Pepperwood

1/29/23 10:49am

Also, for perspective, if you change just two plays we beat Gonzaga and SMC and

Junior Deputy

1/29/23 8:38am

Also by being so close in these two games how do we underperform so badly

BYU '80

1/29/23 8:40am

Bingo. Seeing us hang with Gonzaga and SMC and then lose some unexplainable

ballen

1/29/23 8:42am

Gonzaga is down this year. SMC is doing well in computer rankings,

cwilke1

1/29/23 1:12pm

Inconsistency is a Hallmark of young teams and teams without

JoeExotic

1/29/23 8:45am

Except Pope has shown an ability to coach consistent teams. You are stretching.

Junior Deputy

1/29/23 8:55am

This has been the case since Day 1 of the WCC.

TheLoneCougar

1/29/23 11:48am

And SDSU.

Tweege

1/29/23 8:51am

People aren’t saying pope should be replaced based on losses to smc

BYU '80

1/29/23 8:38am

Last year, he lost two bigs to injuries. This year IS a rebuilding year. The sky

rockyrd

1/29/23 1:02pm

I don’t think byu should ever, ever finish below 3rd in the WCC.

ballen

1/29/23 8:39am

Not out of the question for this team to still finish in 3rd

CPAcoug87

1/29/23 8:45am

I'd say less than 5% chance to finish 3rd. If BYU goes 7-0 to end the season

cwilke1

1/29/23 11:22am

Really, 4th is as good as 3rd.

CPAcoug87

1/29/23 1:09pm

good point, because this year there is no need to avoid the 1 seed and hope for

cwilke1

1/29/23 1:17pm

Yeah, it only helps them if they win the games 😂

CPAcoug87

1/29/23 4:56pm

BYU was predicted to finished 3rd. All this “we knew they wouldn’t be good” is

Mr. Scoobs

1/29/23 9:08am

Then you don't know basketball. LMU, Santa Clara and USF are all decent squads.

kiyoshige

1/29/23 10:56am

With our facilities, fan following, budgets, etc we should outperform those

ballen

1/29/23 11:46am

Here is the basketball recruiting order in California

kiyoshige

1/30/23 6:01am

Absolutely. Hoping heartbreakers this year turn into clutch wins in future years

CPAcoug87

1/29/23 8:39am

analytically they've regressed in pretty much every area each of the last 4 years. It's a hard trend to ignore.

dryflyelk

1/29/23 8:40am

So only four rebuilding years in a row

BYU '80

1/29/23 8:43am

JoeExotic

1/29/23 8:47am

Stats class was different at the Y 43 years ago.

RoaroftheCougartails

1/29/23 9:20am

We’ve simultaneously over performed and underperformed.

stenso

1/29/23 9:21am

The hallmark of young teams adding new older players.

CMAC38

1/29/23 11:28am

So with scouring the portal every year, is every year a rebuilding year?

zerome4sooners

1/29/23 9:34am

Yes but some of the Ls are still head scratchers, South Dakota, Santa Clara, UVU

4slyce

1/29/23 9:39am

These two losses are heartbreaking

bigjohn

1/29/23 10:41am

Amen

Srg

1/29/23 11:08am

It’s a moving of the goal posts. It’s another rebuilding year because of Pope’s

jlangager

1/29/23 12:04pm

The overhauls are due to lack of quality young players and recruits in

JoeExotic

1/29/23 1:08pm

This narrative is tired and old. He’s been here since 2019. Great, he’s getting

jlangager

1/29/23 6:43pm

The other recruits are transfer players filling holes

JoeExotic

1/29/23 9:25pm

How do you rebuild when many of your starters are 1 year portal players. Pope

Jasbo

1/29/23 2:02pm

Wasn't Pope's fault we never got to see Baxter healthy for even 1 season.

CMAC38

1/29/23 9:09pm

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