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As long as Ute fans exist in church leadership, LES will never be modernized.
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The church is spending hundreds of millions at BYU. Save your “church needs to
JWin
Apr 12, 11:47pm
Gordon Monson right now:
Great38
Apr 12, 11:55pm
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A Drew Aitch
Apr 13, 12:13am
What if a big part of the mission of BYU is missionary work? Bigger perhaps than your kids or my kids getting a great
RoaroftheCougartails
Apr 13, 12:17am
Then factor in the missionary subsidy and MTC facilities on top of BYU spending.
kccougar
Apr 13, 12:19am
You are right, keeping tuition low isn’t a purpose of the church. But it is part
JWin
Apr 13, 4:22am
A few points to this - why it would be bad and why we already do it
krindorr
Apr 13, 4:25am
Um, perfect the saints? Yes making affordable education sure is.
Acorn
Apr 13, 7:22am
the church makes investments. invest in BYU athletics, it's a good investment
el the Puma Fan
Apr 13, 12:26am
Because it doesn’t make money. I hope you can see the difference. You want the
JWin
Apr 13, 3:58am
That is an unpopular take
CrimsonCardinal
Apr 13, 5:18am
Yep, prophets and profits. Primary goals of the church
NYC and Japan
Apr 13, 9:05am
You can’t build the kingdom without cash. And without profit there would be no
JWin
Apr 13, 9:12am
To loosely quote Margaret Thatcher:
Traveling Coug
Apr 13, 9:15am
I love that quote. I had never heard it.
JWin
Apr 13, 9:42am
I think this is precisely the message Jesus was trying to convey.
troglodyte
Apr 13, 11:20am
Of course it wasn't
Traveling Coug
Apr 15, 8:31am
The Church would definitely get dividends off NIL for kids who they then ask to
Trent
Apr 13, 1:31pm
As long as Ute fans exist in church leadership, LES will never be modernized.
fan32
Apr 13, 8:11am
Biggest conflict of interest in history of mankind.
fan32
Apr 13, 8:12am
Does family search make money?
Srg
Apr 13, 10:39am
If the church only views the athletic department as entertainment
wjman11
Apr 13, 12:42am
Then BYU should end the sports programs. If they arent willing to compete with
Grock
Apr 13, 5:41am
Yeah let’s just go the BYU-I route. El Jefe can you please create an intramural
Cooouuugs
Apr 13, 5:49am
Where's the line on this?
krindorr
Apr 13, 6:58am
There are many who feel BYU should be out of college sports altogether, including I believe Elder Oaks who has said..
ToasterChive
Apr 13, 10:01am
BYU has traditionally underpaid coaches
BondWeaver
Apr 13, 6:13am
Amen, brother. Lots of BYU fans need to drink coca cola and get real!
indocougs
Apr 13, 6:48am
RE: Amen, brother. Lots of BYU fans need to drink coca cola and get real!
Cooouuugs
Apr 13, 6:55am
How do you know how much the church is spending?
el the Puma Fan
Apr 13, 7:14am
Misses the point. Church supports BYU, not BYU sports. Missionary tool or not?
fan32
Apr 13, 7:59am
BYU has the potential to be the best missionary tool the church has ever had. Why let it be underutilized?
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 9:10am
Playing sports is the best missionary tool. Maybe the Book of Mormon is second.
JWin
Apr 13, 9:13am
And imagine how much easier it would be to get the Book of Mormon into people’s hands if BYU sports was lighting the
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 9:43am
Now imagine the conversation about the LDS church paying a coach $15M and building an over-the-top locker room
krindorr
Apr 13, 9:54am
1. Our coaching salaries don’t have to be made public so it’s irrelevant. 2. As long as what we are doing is
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 9:59am
Do you really think “because our coaches’ salaries don’t have to be made public”
thirdgencoug
Apr 13, 10:27am
Interesting you addressed one out of 5 points. What do you mean by “no one would know?”
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 10:39am
RE: 1. Our coaching salaries don’t have to be made public so it’s irrelevant. 2. As long as what we are
krindorr
Apr 15, 12:10am
At what point would it become counterproductive?
thirdgencoug
Apr 13, 9:56am
We get those questions today, especially every time a temple is built in a less wealthy part of the world.
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 10:30am
So where’s the line for BYU sports? Maybe we are there already.
thirdgencoug
Apr 13, 10:39am
No. We are not. I can’t say where some imaginary line is. But it’s clear we aren’t there. And the line isn’t static.
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 10:43am
How are you so sure we are not?
thirdgencoug
Apr 13, 10:53am
I wouldn’t say “awesome.” It’s truly a burden.
RalphWiggam
Apr 13, 10:58am
To quote Adrian Monk, “A blessing, and a curse.”
thirdgencoug
Apr 13, 11:02am
If all those who want the church to pay for a coach please opine if you are stepping in to make major contributions?
Cougstreak
Apr 13, 10:23am
A better solution of having more capital for athletics….increase tuition.
Cougstreak
Apr 13, 10:29am
Charging each student an additional $250 a semester that goes to the athletic
wjman11
Apr 13, 11:07am
Yep. There are ways.
Cougstreak
Apr 13, 11:15am
I actually am friendly to the idea of increasing tuition, but to do it so we can
BaseCoug
Apr 13, 11:53pm
Does the church see the basketball team as a mission tool?
wjman11
Apr 13, 11:03am
Ok explain what the church needs with thousands of acres of land
newbee
Apr 13, 10:23am
Depends. Which land are you referring to? Some of the land the Church owns is
BYU-Ite
Apr 13, 12:28pm
This misses the entire point!
rmarkerm
Apr 13, 10:35am
How much do we pay our coaches compared to other schools? I think that's ...
KCFan85
Apr 13, 11:40am
wrong.lots of Jack/non mormons only remaining connection with the church is BYU
qwerew
Apr 13, 12:41pm
This trope about BYU athletics (esp. FB) being a missionary tool is a joke. No
Jasbo
Apr 13, 2:06pm
If your basis is accurate numbers, then it will be hard for the church to
wjman11
Apr 13, 2:24pm
Yep any positive micro or macro PR is a good thing for people being open to hear
Trent
Apr 13, 3:26pm
I worry PR cuts both ways and sports can divisive.
Cougstreak
Apr 13, 11:51pm
I do think sports can impact membership, but I do think…
Cougstreak
Apr 13, 11:37pm
Vacuous set of points. The Church doesn't contribute $ to the first two.
Jasbo
Apr 14, 11:43pm
Your post said that BYU football being a missionary tool is a joke.
wjman11
Apr 15, 12:57am
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