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Sep 19, 2017
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lbmango
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Interesting. I'd be interested to see how some of these percentages compare to
other schools. Particularly things like the percentage TV contributes to overall revenue, and the percentage of expenditures earmarked to recruiting.
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Financial summary, direct from BYU
mikecito
9/19/17 7:43pm
Pie charts should be illegal
Martin Van Nostrand
9/19/17 7:45pm
In all fairness, this isn't a pie chart. It's a donut chart.
mikecito
9/19/17 7:56pm
RE: In all fairness, this isn't a pie chart. It's a donut chart.
Ocho Cuatro
9/19/17 11:23pm
Should they use a Cougar Tail chart?
fan_byu
9/20/17 7:42am
Lol. Earned more from sports camps than from tv/radio.
mulletino
9/19/17 7:47pm
Wasn't our tv contract near 20 million? Man those camps
1984coug
9/19/17 7:48pm
Notice we bring in 8% on sports camps but spend 9% on sports camps...
mikecito
9/19/17 7:52pm
Camps are a recruiting tool (evaluate talent) and its supplimentary income
BostonCougar
9/19/17 7:57pm
There are different camps, some are for recruiting and some are for instruction/
BYU Grounds
9/20/17 11:39am
Probably pays off in the long run
Ulysses14
9/19/17 7:59pm
just to clarify. these numbers show that the camps are profitable (and, as noted, they are great for recruiting).
HarlemCoug
9/19/17 8:11pm
But expenditures are likely less than revenues so they could still be
cougarfann888
9/19/17 8:58pm
Yes, total expenses were $54M
Everyman
9/19/17 9:05pm
Corrected total expenses numbers.
Everyman
9/19/17 10:37pm
Where did the $54M figure come from?
mm73
9/20/17 5:49am
From BYU’s report to the Dept of Education. Link
Everyman
9/20/17 6:30am
8% of expenses does not equal 8% of revenue. So 8% of revenue could actually be
andrewg3
9/20/17 9:10am
Well hopefully Revenue > Expense
YardTime
9/20/17 10:45am
But they lost money on sports camps too.
CharlottesvilleCoug
9/20/17 8:43am
No they didn't see above
cougarfann888
9/20/17 8:47am
Interesting. I'd be interested to see how some of these percentages compare to
lbmango
9/19/17 7:50pm
Where is tithing?
jholling
9/19/17 7:53pm
Subsidized tuition
CallingDingo
9/19/17 8:20pm
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HarlemCoug
9/19/17 8:23pm
Thats a lot of subsidy from Tuition Allocation. Not sure too many people know
Tango
9/19/17 8:48pm
isn't that to cover the athletic scholarships?
Nat Gas Man
9/19/17 10:50pm
When students earn semester credits within the athletic department, then tuition
tisdaplace
9/20/17 9:28am
The big thing missing which I think is wrong is consessions
Nat Gas Man
9/19/17 7:58pm
amen!
warp
9/20/17 6:44am
They have 5% Other. So it was less than 5%.
thecthdox
9/20/17 8:44am
It's speculated byu doesn't get concession money that all that profit goes to
cougarfann888
9/20/17 8:48am
this is correct athletics subsidizes many departments
Nat Gas Man
9/20/17 10:38am
Which it shouldn't
BYUSwoop
9/20/17 7:35pm
Imagine how an increase in TV revenue would change that chart
1-Wing RCAF
9/19/17 7:58pm
It’s in line with the percentages mailed out to CC members,
Everyman
9/19/17 8:01pm
I thought TV would be closer to $8-10 million
SpudCoug
9/19/17 8:02pm
Where did you come up with that number?
BlueFrog
9/19/17 8:05pm
Speculation on ESPN contract
SpudCoug
9/19/17 8:17pm
Yeah that was a big myth. People were talking about 1m-1.5m per game and it just
BlueFrog
9/19/17 8:38pm
That’s why TH said that BYU could not keep up
Everyman
9/19/17 8:30pm
2 years ago total tv/radio income was ~5m
BlueFrog
9/19/17 8:03pm
That would seem to indicate about 4.5 mil in TV/radio revenue, right?
Solomon Levi
9/19/17 8:03pm
Conference revenue is also tv/radio (from bball) mostly
jkccoug
9/19/17 8:23pm
with the big increase in season tickets I'm sure it will once again be the big
Nat Gas Man
9/19/17 8:04pm
1% other tickets. Yet, how much does it cost to run those other sports? Got
Cougarfan777
9/19/17 8:08pm
Where is the Donations from for profit arm of church category?
kotacoug
9/19/17 8:11pm
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Paco
9/19/17 8:22pm
14% from tuition and 7% from TV/radio? I didn't realize we were subsidizing
insidebyu
9/19/17 8:26pm
the school isn't cutting a check, if that's what you mean. Not that I'd have a
Bostonblue
9/19/17 8:56pm
This is different than a typical school's tuition subsidy.
jrj84105
9/19/17 9:24pm
I'd assume they just don't charge student athletes tuition
Bostonblue
9/19/17 9:36pm
It's more than that. They report 5.2M in tuition to the department of education
jrj84105
9/20/17 10:30am
are you trying to imply that there is something other than a "tuition subsidy"
Bostonblue
9/20/17 10:41am
No, don't think anyone is lying, but it's unclear what "tuition allocation"
Scratch
9/20/17 10:56am
Wait, did I ask you?
Bostonblue
9/20/17 11:01am
Sorry, I didn't realize on a message board that only the person to whom a
Scratch
9/20/17 11:39am
note that licensed royaltys
Richw
9/19/17 8:38pm
gear and equipment is only an expense? BYU has a nike contract right?
Lance71
9/19/17 8:42pm
I think we are a tier 2 or tier 3 Nike school, which means that
Iman23
9/19/17 9:00pm
Probably falls under corporate sponsors
cougarfann888
9/19/17 9:01pm
Am I the only one surprised we spent more on hosting/food than recruiting?
SL12
9/19/17 10:19pm
this is pretty consistent with what I have been saying
kosmokramer
9/19/17 10:31pm
I stand corrected on many of my assumptions.
mudpupper
9/19/17 11:51pm
It would hurt in the ability to compete. Big boy ball versus small ball.
BYUSwoop
9/20/17 8:35am
Donor money would plummet if we went back to a g5.
HarlemCoug
9/20/17 9:36am
Donor money will plummet if we don't start winning.
kosmokramer
9/20/17 1:03pm
The sad thing is if BYU invested just a small percentage in BYU Football as they did in City Creek it would be
TyPower2016
9/19/17 11:17pm
those guys are sports fans, but the world is a big place. U.S. is 4.4% of world's population
cwilke1
9/19/17 11:45pm
BYU invested in City Creek? Sorry, I don't believe you.
Acorn
9/20/17 6:45am
The church payed for the whole thing!
Blue for Life
9/20/17 8:40am
He's saying the Church paid for it not BYU and that they are different/separate
Martin Van Nostrand
9/20/17 9:43am
BYU and City Creek are both owned by the Church but BYU doesnt own City Creek.
LiquidUte
9/20/17 12:18pm
The for profit arm of the church invested in City Creek. Once BYU becomes
Bostonblue
9/20/17 12:27pm
You fandom is dependent on a small clique of octogenarians? Weird.
Plato
9/20/17 10:05am
Intriguing to think how much leverage we have now with our TV contract renewal
SpudCoug
9/20/17 12:09am
So what's our ESPN contract really worth? $3m a year? really?!!
CougLuv1
9/20/17 8:31am
The expenses were $54M; the revenue was $62M
Everyman
9/20/17 8:41am
So, ESPN contract brought in about $4.4M last year? That's consistent with the
boscatar
9/20/17 1:04pm
Not quite, because there's other TV and radio money involved as well.
Scratch
9/20/17 1:15pm
My guess is that it falls under football revenue
Everyman
9/20/17 1:25pm
It is still better than the MWC by at least double.
Solomon Levi
9/20/17 9:35am
Yes, but not much better than Boise, almost a push. So the question is how much
Scratch
9/20/17 9:45am
Donor money would plummet if we went back to a g5.
HarlemCoug
9/20/17 9:38am
10% Financial Aid; 33% Salary expenses. Should be a crime.
Plato
9/20/17 10:04am
Notice only 7% comes from TV and radio. Thats all sports.
Count Cougar
9/20/17 10:16am
The recruiting budget number really surprises me.
wcj99
9/20/17 11:02am
TV money is higher than the 7.5%
SpudCoug
9/20/17 7:03pm
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