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Nov 20, 2014
11:11:18am

Smoke Monster

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Smoke Monster

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Time

What this Year Says About the State of the Program

rcl17

11/20/14 12:37am

Unlike others, I don't really care how Bronco communicates things. To me, it's

UNLVcougar

11/20/14 12:42am

I'm with you. The head coaching has been poor to mediocre and leaves plenty

Pasadena

11/20/14 2:05am

You can be a jerk like Nick Saban - if you win!

farsurfer

11/20/14 7:00am

The last few years have been worse due to OL and lack of consistency of QB.

rcl17

11/20/14 7:14am

USU is similar to UTEP in '85. We were ranked,

Bert609

11/20/14 5:12am

Another thing about the '96 squad, I remember that team well

Bert609

11/20/14 5:17am

Taysom's knee injury was 2 years before....

BYUFam1

11/20/14 6:17am

RE: "USU is similar to UTEP in '85"????

BYUFam1

11/20/14 6:15am

Another few items to compare

BYUFam1

11/20/14 9:33am

No. UTEP was much worse.

Belboz

11/20/14 8:31am

Not much worse

dratax

11/20/14 9:19am

I remember my mom told me "You can't win them all."

Belboz

11/20/14 10:19am

*facepalm*

BeardedSpock

11/20/14 8:59am

You made some very good points but Bronco said this was the deepest team

HighHorse

11/20/14 5:33am

When was the last game all our planned starting defenders were in place?

BYUFam1

11/20/14 6:36am

Every team deals with starters being out. Our team was exposed because

HighHorse

11/20/14 6:53am

Cool my thumbs down stalker hasn't lost interest in me yet

BYUFam1

11/20/14 7:04am

Did you get your feelers hurt

concolor couguar

11/20/14 7:54am

No - probably would get my feelings hurt if you stopped

BYUFam1

11/20/14 8:55am

I honestly dont even remember the last time I gave you a thumbs down

concolor couguar

11/20/14 9:19am

I have never felt like you ever tried to have a conversation

BYUFam1

11/20/14 9:43am

We probably would be 10-0 or at least 8-2 right now if Taysom were healthy

binghammer

11/20/14 11:40am

The defense is "getting better" against unimpressive offenses. It gave up

BYUlv

11/20/14 6:49am

Bronco's body of work on D and level of talent...

rcl17

11/20/14 7:06am

To an extent, I agree with you about body of work when Bronco is the DC.

BYUlv

11/20/14 9:12am

exactly, we're in the area of the schedule where everyone gets all happy with

kotacoug

11/20/14 7:39am

The defense has jumped from 82 to 61 in S&P+ in the past few weeks

CoopDizz

11/20/14 8:40am

I am glad that statistically the defense has improved. I guess that would

BYUlv

11/20/14 9:18am

D still not where it needs to be, but I put some of the scores on special teams

viper

11/20/14 9:06am

Losing Taysom hurt, but we can't just use the injury cop out

Twin Roots

11/20/14 7:39am

Dude, you're trying to put whipped cream on a turd

DaveLB

11/20/14 7:48am

I'm happy to do so when our playmakers are the side lines

rcl17

11/20/14 11:20am

Yeah the D is bad but it's a team effort

DaveLB

11/20/14 1:04pm

I don't feel any better about the team after winning the last two weeks

rcl17

11/20/14 5:01pm

USU responded great after losing 10 starters and down to their 4th string QB

RockyBalboa

11/20/14 8:07am

Hopefully we are not insinuating that BYU faced that 4th string QB

BYUFam1

11/20/14 9:57am

USU is winning games with their 4th string QB & 10 starters out

RockyBalboa

11/20/14 10:01am

Just clarifying - as I hoped I understood what you were saying...

BYUFam1

11/20/14 10:09am

Okay?

RockyBalboa

11/20/14 10:22am

This is beyond crazy to me

VenetianCougar

11/20/14 8:54am

Nope that isn't the point. The point is the no good BYU could have sustained

rcl17

11/20/14 9:14am

Agree injuries affect it. Disagree that we should be optimistic though.

VenetianCougar

11/20/14 10:06am

The very fact that you are making this argument speaks volumes about how far our

Real Men Wear Blue

11/20/14 9:18am

Sorry. Your completely wrong. I just think we are better off following the

rcl17

11/20/14 9:51am

You may disagree. But I'm not "wrong."

Real Men Wear Blue

11/20/14 1:22pm

To the extent your speaking for me you are...I can't speak for others.

rcl17

11/20/14 7:06pm

Solid post

crookedUTE

11/20/14 9:37am

RE: What this Year Says About the State of the Program

allawah

11/20/14 9:56am

Ahhhh... all is well

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 10:20am

RE: Sorry my bad. The sky is falling...the sky is falling:)

rcl17

11/20/14 11:07am

You're the one shining the turd... keep it going

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 11:11am

It's not as bad as you want to think it is

binghammer

11/20/14 11:24am

It's not as good as you want to believe it is either...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 11:28am

Haha, wrong

binghammer

11/20/14 11:33am

Cause losing to USU, UNR, curb stomped my Boise and losing to a poor UCF...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 11:57am

6+ wins is a "bad season", it's not nearly as bad as you think

binghammer

11/20/14 12:01pm

LOL... you are seriously funny

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 12:17pm

No, you're funny, the very fact that you think I am happy with 6 wins

binghammer

11/20/14 12:29pm

You hold onto 1 piece of the entire pie and act like it's the only thing...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 1:11pm

TLDR

binghammer

11/20/14 1:13pm

Cause you know it's the truth... and you have nothing to debate about it...

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 1:40pm

More like cause you are broken record and I don't feel like reading 20

binghammer

11/20/14 1:50pm

yep... that's totally it

Smoke Monster

11/20/14 1:52pm

Yep

binghammer

11/20/14 1:59pm

That so many fans are satisfied says a lot about the state of the program

spinner

11/20/14 11:05am

Hardly anyone is "satisfied". Almost everyone is disappointed

binghammer

11/20/14 11:25am

I don't know - rcl17's post sounded pretty satisfied

spinner

11/20/14 11:33am

So what changed from Bronco pre-2010 to now that was so

binghammer

11/20/14 11:37am

The last 5 seasons evidence a pattern

spinner

11/20/14 11:52am

It all goes back to the QB

binghammer

11/20/14 11:54am

If we need a Heisman candidate at qb to be competitive, we won't be good often

spinner

11/20/14 11:56am

Not a Heisman, we have only ever had one of those

binghammer

11/20/14 12:00pm

Then my comment still applies

spinner

11/20/14 12:11pm

We will probably continue to be what we have been over the past 40 years or so

binghammer

11/20/14 12:16pm

If you find the last 5 years satisfying, then carry on

spinner

11/20/14 12:53pm

Minimum standard is what I would say, but also with the feeling that

binghammer

11/20/14 1:01pm

What ranking do you consider to be average? Our rankings have been about top 25%

viper

11/20/14 12:11pm

We are consistently rated in the top 50 teams in Sagarin, even now

binghammer

11/20/14 12:13pm

We have a had a tough and disappointing year. We do not have a bad program.

rcl17

11/20/14 11:45am

I agree, a bad year doesn't mean bad program. The very fact that we can say

binghammer

11/20/14 11:53am

We've had 5 tough and disappointing years. We don't have a good program

spinner

11/20/14 11:53am

Good solid level headed post, seems rare these days on this board

CougarsFanSince80s

11/20/14 11:42am

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