Negotiation tactic by the Big 12 to gain leverage in talks with TCU, WVU, etc.

Jan 28, 2015
12:45:49pm

Hoosier Coug

The BYU card flapping in the wind was a convenient piece of leverage for them. Both teams came into the conference with seats at the kids' table.

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"But,but,but, the Big12 was unstable." How was the worst amount of instability

Iman23

1/28/15 11:29am

I remember it being very unstable at the time

idacoug

1/28/15 11:30am

I can. Just get in. Worst that could have happened is we just go independent

LiveCoug

1/28/15 11:35am

This makes no sense. Without TX and OK, you might as

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:40am

Right, if the remainder of the Big 12 gets left in the cold, then

LiveCoug

1/28/15 11:42am

Yeah, that sends a great message about Indy.

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:45am

I feel like you aren't getting what I am saying.

LiveCoug

1/28/15 11:48am

Really? I wouldn't mind being in a conference with Oklahoma State, Texas Tech

Windward_Coug

1/28/15 11:46am

I'm not saying its the worst thing in the world either. I'm

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:53am

Yep. If BYU did in fact hesitate it would further prove how out of touch

swingcat

1/28/15 11:42am

Never offered = CYA

Bonoman

1/28/15 11:44am

I think the fiasco of the Mtn. channel was still fresh in their minds

morningcalmcougar

1/29/15 5:22am

RE: I can. Just get in. Worst that could have happened is we just go independent

Superman21

1/28/15 5:03pm

I can instability meant an opportunity for BYU and they didn't take it.

johnnybyu

1/28/15 12:04pm

I'll take Made-Up Scenarios Taken As Fact for 500 Alex.

darkcoug

1/28/15 11:32am

BYU would not have been able to go Indy if we have given a grant of

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:33am

IIRC, the B12 grant of rights wasn't signed til TX and OU were back in the fold

silk

1/28/15 11:36am

Right. But you don't join the Big12 unless

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:39am

right, but you wouldn't have had to sign the grant of rights if UT and OU

LiveCoug

1/28/15 11:42am

Without UT and OK, the Big12 would have gone the way

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:44am

...and BYU would be forced to go back to independence.

swingcat

1/28/15 11:44am

and makes us look desperate

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:46am

In contrast to BYU's current situation?

swingcat

1/28/15 11:47am

Have you seen our schedules coming up?

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:55am

This is not true BYU would have been more valuable after going to the Big 12.

johnnybyu

1/28/15 12:07pm

We would not have been able to go indy due to a grant of rights.

Bostonblue

1/28/15 1:31pm

The grant of rights was only signed to keep OU and UT, so if we had signed

LiveCoug

1/28/15 1:59pm

Not so. TX and OU could easily have paid whatever exit penalty

Bostonblue

1/28/15 2:13pm

Ya, because we don't look desperate now.

Superman21

1/28/15 5:05pm

Just because you are desperate, does not mean BYU is.

Bostonblue

1/28/15 5:09pm

Just because BYU is not desperate does not mean they don't look desperate.

Superman21

1/28/15 6:07pm

I never said that I would not want to be in the Big 12 as it

Bostonblue

1/28/15 7:33pm

Or be stuck in a league with Baylor, TT, KSU, Kansas, etc...

swingcat

1/28/15 11:47am

My bet is that any above average teams that remained

Bostonblue

1/28/15 11:49am

The enormous payouts from the Texahoma 4 would have been a nice nest egg

jrj84105

1/28/15 2:05pm

We didn't balk because of instability, we just never got the invite

BYUCougarsFan

1/28/15 11:33am

right, but assuming you're married, did you ask before you knew the answer?

palangi

1/28/15 11:45am

The answer from BYU would have been yes.

BYUCougarsFan

1/28/15 11:46am

without any guarantees from OU and Texas? I strongly disagree, BYU was loving

palangi

1/28/15 11:53am

Regardless of circumstances...BYU misplayed the opportunity and ......

Bonoman

1/28/15 11:40am

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deckard667

1/28/15 12:05pm

Agreed thing would look at lot of different if BYU would have beat Utah 3 of the

johnnybyu

1/28/15 12:26pm

The instate comparison with Utah is only amplifying that decision four years ago

Bonoman

1/28/15 12:45pm

Remember, at that time teams that were jumping conferences

Justinodhan

1/28/15 11:55am

"media conversations"?

Hoosier Coug

1/28/15 11:57am

media outlets we saying we were on the list to join the big 12

Justinodhan

1/28/15 12:00pm

Negotiation tactic by the Big 12 to gain leverage in talks with TCU, WVU, etc.

Hoosier Coug

1/28/15 12:45pm

Agree BYU should have looked at the instability as an opportunity not an issue

johnnybyu

1/28/15 12:02pm

"It was ours for the taking" - not true at all.

NewMexiCoug

1/28/15 12:20pm

move em to Saturday or Monday...that was easy, the entire NCAA did it for BYU

palangi

1/28/15 12:32pm

Sorry but the NCAA has done nothing at all for BYU. How often have they

NewMexiCoug

1/28/15 5:17pm

what NCAA championship is played on Sunday? they're all moved. tv revenue from

palangi

1/29/15 7:41am

Women's BBall semifinals are on Sunday, the Women's Soccer Final,

NewMexiCoug

2/2/15 6:59pm

This is pathetic, if it is remotely true you're crying over spilt milk....

PoopTown LLC

1/28/15 2:16pm

Would you have been happy in a conference with Iowa State, Baylor, and TX Tech?

mogelijk

1/28/15 2:29pm

Ha... "The BYU Barnum and Bailey's"

bluegato

1/28/15 2:36pm

Big 12? Reality is that still no one likes or trusts Texas.

BridgersCache

1/28/15 3:42pm

Arkansas, A&M, Mizzou, Nebraska, Buffs. and Utes

BridgersCache

1/28/15 5:51pm

If only we could see the future

Bleeding Blue

1/28/15 4:48pm

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