You can't turn ground beef into filet mignon

May 23, 2015
12:26:36pm

StantonMac

It's not a surprise to anyone that the NFL prefers raw athleticism above all else, and that is the sort of player that BYU has always had difficulty recruiting. Sorry to break it to you, but it isn't as simple as "coaching them up".

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StantonMac

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I love that BYU is signing these athletic Poly players.

idcougarfan

5/23/15 9:38am

Exactly. Recruit athletes and coach them up. Worked with Ziggy.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/15 9:42am

BYU Football does lots of thing poorly, but "coaching 'em up" tops the list.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 10:00am

really? I beg to differ. BYU will never land top recruiting classes or superior

palangi

5/23/15 10:08am

Google "BYU football NFL Draft"

WhyKnot

5/23/15 10:10am

Google "NFL caliber BYU recruits"

TrueAndBlue

5/23/15 11:26am

^^^^^winner^^^^^ you get it

palangi

5/23/15 2:01pm

^^^doesn't have a clue.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 2:44pm

name them

palangi

5/23/15 2:47pm

You asked for it.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:10pm

You could put together a similar list for every team in the country

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:13pm

Saying something incessantly doesn't make it true. Go ahead and provide proof.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:23pm

Honest question: what do you make of this analysis?

Reasonable1

5/23/15 3:41pm

Lol. You should read what you just wrote, then apply it to yourself.

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:56pm

Injury or ineligibility derailed half those guys

I'mBatman

5/23/15 4:07pm

Or the fact that Adam Hine is still in school.

Reasonable1

5/23/15 4:17pm

looks about par for the course, especially when you consider transfers, injuries

palangi

5/23/15 6:05pm

That is a dozen and a half. Over 10 years. That's very few

TrueAndBlue

5/23/15 8:31pm

on every team in the country

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:02pm

*facepalm

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:11pm

Palangi is right.

Reasonable1

5/23/15 3:04pm

google - NFL players who took 2 years off

HarlemCoug

5/23/15 11:53am

The excuses keep rolling in.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 11:58am

Need ed uc a tion

ZooBlue

5/23/15 7:30pm

One of the biggest myths out there

StantonMac

5/23/15 10:13am

yet I know two coa he's whom were on staff that says you don't know

CarolinaCoug

5/23/15 11:23am

lol. Maybe if those coaches had done a better job, they would still be on staff

StantonMac

5/23/15 11:32am

you mean if they had been allowed to do their jobs???

CarolinaCoug

5/23/15 1:30pm

My failures are always someone else's fault too.

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:14pm

It doesn't take an analytical mind to see that BYU sends far fewer players to

WhyKnot

5/23/15 11:28am

BYU consistently does better on the field than their recruiting rankings predict

StantonMac

5/23/15 11:44am

Haha! "We'll develop you into a great player (just not the kind the NFL wants)"

WhyKnot

5/23/15 12:19pm

You can't turn ground beef into filet mignon

StantonMac

5/23/15 12:26pm

Taking a chance and coaching them up was the premise of the OP.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 1:18pm

BULK CRABS!!

Kougrage

5/23/15 12:00pm

not sure why everyone is arguing this...it's kind of clear byu isn't the greates

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:28pm

This analysis shows that BYU is good at "coaching them up"

Reasonable1

5/23/15 2:50pm

Byu didn't recruit ziggy. But I get what you're saying.

blueaussie

5/23/15 11:54am

BYU football didnt recruit him. But he was on academic scholarship from day one

SolidBlue

5/23/15 12:38pm

WRONG. he came to byu from ghana just for academics. byu football in no way

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:29pm

the entire thing was chronicled on ESPN. he wanted to play basketball but no

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:30pm

Uh, it's says BYU football didn't recruit him in the first sentence. I was

SolidBlue

5/23/15 8:32pm

I wouldn't say academic scholarship means they recruited him.

blueaussie

5/23/15 9:55pm

I guess the question is then, could Ziggy financially have attended BYU without

SolidBlue

5/24/15 10:36am

people aren't always recruited when they get scholarships...they apply to the

Southpaw102

5/24/15 1:00pm

this matters because we need something besides breastfeeding to argue about.

blueaussie

5/24/15 3:08pm

I was on an academic scholarship too. Sweet. Now I can tell everyone BYU

blueaussie

5/23/15 8:17pm

irrelevant...this thread is about the coaches inability to "coach up" players

palangi

5/24/15 11:44am

I'm intrigued and entertained by the signings but don't love it, yet

ColoSpgs

5/23/15 9:44am

At least 30% of the scholarships we give are a comparable gamble

CoopDizz

5/23/15 9:47am

I'm intrigued and entertained by those, too

ColoSpgs

5/23/15 9:51am

Not me

CoopDizz

5/23/15 9:52am

White bread?

kimdaddy35

5/24/15 2:12am

Only maybe two of the guys you listed qualify as white bread

CoopDizz

5/24/15 5:26pm

Two? Please explain to me your definition of white bread then.

kimdaddy35

5/25/15 7:28pm

clueless or in denial about recruiting if you claim you don't get it

southernfriedcougar

5/25/15 7:30pm

White breads are essential to our team. How else do they get their carbs?

Reasonable1

5/24/15 8:11am

No you're not

southernfriedcougar

5/23/15 6:46pm

It's a better stragety than filling out the OL recruiting by signing a lower

I'mBatman

5/23/15 10:05am

100% Agree

gaspasscoug

5/23/15 10:04am

It was Bronco that went away from poly coaches and players?

StantonMac

5/23/15 10:09am

Bronco went "away" from poly coaches and players?

byu1

5/23/15 10:53am

I only remember him getting away from Kahuku -- cuz between the Yewt invasion

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 11:24am

Didn't the well-poisining start with the way BYU treated Norm Chow?

StantonMac

5/23/15 12:43pm

Chow lost his popularity at Kahuku as I recall.

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 2:10pm

The top sell on these two kids isn't athleticism, but size.

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 11:17am

when is Kaufusi going back to the islands?

qom

5/23/15 7:37pm

There are not enough players signed who have NFL talent. In my opinion there are

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