Honest question: what do you make of this analysis?

May 23, 2015
3:41:21pm

Reasonable1

Would you say BYU's biggest deficiency is in getting players to perform at the college level, getting them into the league, or something else?

http://regressing.deadspin.com/chart-which-ncaa-football-teams-outplay-their-recruit-1640831522

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I love that BYU is signing these athletic Poly players.

idcougarfan

5/23/15 9:38am

Exactly. Recruit athletes and coach them up. Worked with Ziggy.

Turnpike Lane

5/23/15 9:42am

BYU Football does lots of thing poorly, but "coaching 'em up" tops the list.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 10:00am

really? I beg to differ. BYU will never land top recruiting classes or superior

palangi

5/23/15 10:08am

Google "BYU football NFL Draft"

WhyKnot

5/23/15 10:10am

Google "NFL caliber BYU recruits"

TrueAndBlue

5/23/15 11:26am

^^^^^winner^^^^^ you get it

palangi

5/23/15 2:01pm

^^^doesn't have a clue.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 2:44pm

name them

palangi

5/23/15 2:47pm

You asked for it.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:10pm

You could put together a similar list for every team in the country

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:13pm

Saying something incessantly doesn't make it true. Go ahead and provide proof.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:23pm

Honest question: what do you make of this analysis?

Reasonable1

5/23/15 3:41pm

Lol. You should read what you just wrote, then apply it to yourself.

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:56pm

Injury or ineligibility derailed half those guys

I'mBatman

5/23/15 4:07pm

Or the fact that Adam Hine is still in school.

Reasonable1

5/23/15 4:17pm

looks about par for the course, especially when you consider transfers, injuries

palangi

5/23/15 6:05pm

That is a dozen and a half. Over 10 years. That's very few

TrueAndBlue

5/23/15 8:31pm

on every team in the country

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:02pm

*facepalm

WhyKnot

5/23/15 3:11pm

Palangi is right.

Reasonable1

5/23/15 3:04pm

google - NFL players who took 2 years off

HarlemCoug

5/23/15 11:53am

The excuses keep rolling in.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 11:58am

Need ed uc a tion

ZooBlue

5/23/15 7:30pm

One of the biggest myths out there

StantonMac

5/23/15 10:13am

yet I know two coa he's whom were on staff that says you don't know

CarolinaCoug

5/23/15 11:23am

lol. Maybe if those coaches had done a better job, they would still be on staff

StantonMac

5/23/15 11:32am

you mean if they had been allowed to do their jobs???

CarolinaCoug

5/23/15 1:30pm

My failures are always someone else's fault too.

StantonMac

5/23/15 3:14pm

It doesn't take an analytical mind to see that BYU sends far fewer players to

WhyKnot

5/23/15 11:28am

BYU consistently does better on the field than their recruiting rankings predict

StantonMac

5/23/15 11:44am

Haha! "We'll develop you into a great player (just not the kind the NFL wants)"

WhyKnot

5/23/15 12:19pm

You can't turn ground beef into filet mignon

StantonMac

5/23/15 12:26pm

Taking a chance and coaching them up was the premise of the OP.

WhyKnot

5/23/15 1:18pm

BULK CRABS!!

Kougrage

5/23/15 12:00pm

not sure why everyone is arguing this...it's kind of clear byu isn't the greates

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:28pm

This analysis shows that BYU is good at "coaching them up"

Reasonable1

5/23/15 2:50pm

Byu didn't recruit ziggy. But I get what you're saying.

blueaussie

5/23/15 11:54am

BYU football didnt recruit him. But he was on academic scholarship from day one

SolidBlue

5/23/15 12:38pm

WRONG. he came to byu from ghana just for academics. byu football in no way

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:29pm

the entire thing was chronicled on ESPN. he wanted to play basketball but no

Southpaw102

5/23/15 1:30pm

Uh, it's says BYU football didn't recruit him in the first sentence. I was

SolidBlue

5/23/15 8:32pm

I wouldn't say academic scholarship means they recruited him.

blueaussie

5/23/15 9:55pm

I guess the question is then, could Ziggy financially have attended BYU without

SolidBlue

5/24/15 10:36am

people aren't always recruited when they get scholarships...they apply to the

Southpaw102

5/24/15 1:00pm

this matters because we need something besides breastfeeding to argue about.

blueaussie

5/24/15 3:08pm

I was on an academic scholarship too. Sweet. Now I can tell everyone BYU

blueaussie

5/23/15 8:17pm

irrelevant...this thread is about the coaches inability to "coach up" players

palangi

5/24/15 11:44am

I'm intrigued and entertained by the signings but don't love it, yet

ColoSpgs

5/23/15 9:44am

At least 30% of the scholarships we give are a comparable gamble

CoopDizz

5/23/15 9:47am

I'm intrigued and entertained by those, too

ColoSpgs

5/23/15 9:51am

Not me

CoopDizz

5/23/15 9:52am

White bread?

kimdaddy35

5/24/15 2:12am

Only maybe two of the guys you listed qualify as white bread

CoopDizz

5/24/15 5:26pm

Two? Please explain to me your definition of white bread then.

kimdaddy35

5/25/15 7:28pm

clueless or in denial about recruiting if you claim you don't get it

southernfriedcougar

5/25/15 7:30pm

White breads are essential to our team. How else do they get their carbs?

Reasonable1

5/24/15 8:11am

No you're not

southernfriedcougar

5/23/15 6:46pm

It's a better stragety than filling out the OL recruiting by signing a lower

I'mBatman

5/23/15 10:05am

100% Agree

gaspasscoug

5/23/15 10:04am

It was Bronco that went away from poly coaches and players?

StantonMac

5/23/15 10:09am

Bronco went "away" from poly coaches and players?

byu1

5/23/15 10:53am

I only remember him getting away from Kahuku -- cuz between the Yewt invasion

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 11:24am

Didn't the well-poisining start with the way BYU treated Norm Chow?

StantonMac

5/23/15 12:43pm

Chow lost his popularity at Kahuku as I recall.

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 2:10pm

The top sell on these two kids isn't athleticism, but size.

Mantis Mutu

5/23/15 11:17am

when is Kaufusi going back to the islands?

qom

5/23/15 7:37pm

There are not enough players signed who have NFL talent. In my opinion there are

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