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Jul 29, 2015
11:44:14pm

CougDogg-e-Dogg

It's odd that you think that the church needs to spend money downtown to help

the church's appearance and viability, but you don't think that the church should spend money on the BYU program which brings major exposure from an almost untouched demographic for the church.

Also, that billion dollar mall will take decades before the church breaks even on the project

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CougDogg-e-Dogg

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Why is everyone so frustrated with the BOT and the fact that they aren't

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:27pm

Agreed. Fans need to donate more--not the Church.

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:30pm

We've fallen into a vicious cycle

Harrison0Yfan

7/29/15 9:34pm

agreed

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:41pm

^^^This^^^

BYUHgrad

7/29/15 10:03pm

Gotten us into what current place?

7/29/15 10:15pm

IS THIS REAL?

7/30/15 12:50am

We really don't have that much money. We're somewhere between G5 and P5

Harrison0Yfan

7/30/15 9:03pm

Injuries got BYU to where it is. And not wining the lottery for me to where I am

cougarfann888

7/30/15 9:46pm

Not diminishing injuries. Just saying that we're not a rich school where sports

Harrison0Yfan

7/30/15 10:00pm

If the BOT has appropriated the program for missionary work, then they should

Josef K

7/29/15 9:35pm

Ok, I don't expect it to be a MAJOR missionary tool. Next...

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:44pm

Maybe you don't. They do

7/29/15 9:59pm

What program do you think provides the greatest ROI?

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:11pm

Fine don't donate. Then don't make it operate as a missionary program

7/29/15 10:15pm

It's not operating like the missionary program.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:17pm

and if its not a church program or Missonary tool

kahuna

7/29/15 10:47pm

Why?

7/30/15 12:39am

the point was his wording. He acted like unless you fork out dough then it can't

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:29am

Maybe what you stated is exactly that. Who says they aren't fine with it being

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:48pm

Disagree. I think that the decision makers have better information than you

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:50pm

like a Billion dollar preppy mall

kahuna

7/29/15 10:53pm

You don't think that keeping downtown SLC viable is important to the Church?

Random Walk

7/29/15 11:05pm

It's odd that you think that the church needs to spend money downtown to help

CougDogg-e-Dogg

7/29/15 11:44pm

The Church will likely never "break even" on BYU football.

Random Walk

7/30/15 10:08am

It's safe to say you are fairly out of touch and uneducated on this topic.

CougDogg-e-Dogg

7/30/15 10:21am

Educate me.

Random Walk

7/30/15 12:41pm

if you can't see that BYU sports brings alot more to the table for the church

kahuna

7/30/15 12:15am

I think that BYU football does more than provide for entertainment, but

Random Walk

7/30/15 10:10am

Do you know anything about the finances of the project? Is it making or losing

Monomachos

7/29/15 11:48pm

I take it that you have never been to City Creek

7/30/15 12:38am

Not sure how you say the "BOT has appropriated the program for missionary work"

Real G Man

7/29/15 10:35pm

If BYU isn't a church program, drop the honor code.

Mathew

7/29/15 9:37pm

I would certainly support loosening it

Harrison0Yfan

7/29/15 9:48pm

At least let the team deal with it internally

7/29/15 10:00pm

Huh?

crazY

7/29/15 10:11pm

RE: If BYU isn't a church program, drop the honor code.

LVCougarFan

7/29/15 11:20pm

see post above yours

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:49am

it is really disappointing how few Cougar Club members we have.

BYUtka

7/29/15 9:39pm

Instead of joining CC they've probably been waiting to make a large

GastonCoug

7/29/15 9:42pm

Maybe we could replace Friends of Scouting w/ Friends of BYU Football

Ulysses14

7/30/15 8:29am

One last point. It isn't going to happen, so there is no point in whining about

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:41pm

Then we should be able to publicly fundraise for things like the basketball

concolor couguar

7/29/15 9:46pm

Thats a very good point

ColonelMustard7

7/29/15 9:51pm

For sports in general yes but not for specific projects

concolor couguar

7/29/15 9:55pm

I agree with everything, but this:

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:56pm

When BYUTV starts closing up shop on Sundays along with KSL I will stop

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:00pm

It will never happen. BYUtv and KSL are seen as public goods--BYU football is

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:14pm

I don't see the distinction television programs are absolutely luxury items

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:16pm

I'd argue that tv/radio plays a pivotal role in communication.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:17pm

Sunday night football and the premier of Granite flats are not pivotal to

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:22pm

Sure, those programs aren't--but the medium is...

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:28pm

BYU Athletics in big games does that more so than granite flats

concolor couguar

7/29/15 10:31pm

Two questions.

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:41pm

Or lds.org streaming

concolor couguar

7/30/15 10:13am

AND the football program should keep $$ from parking and concessions

kotacoug

7/29/15 10:03pm

What $$ from parking?

7/29/15 10:39pm

the football program doesn't keep the money from concessions? geeze I didn't

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:34am

*$4 million. That is still a head scratcher.

Monomachos

7/30/15 10:06am

I haven't seen anyone voice that frustration.

kccougar

7/29/15 9:47pm

Here you go.

Random Walk

7/29/15 9:52pm

i was thinking of posts like this

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:37am

Well, we can now redirect our Friends of Scouting donations to Cougar Club!

zonacougar

7/29/15 9:49pm

So, still zero then

maxpowers

7/29/15 10:07pm

RE: So, still zero then

zonacougar

7/29/15 10:18pm

I don't think many people believe tithing funds should be used for BYU athletics

cougarfann888

7/29/15 9:58pm

How about the $10 million the Church contributed to UofU Law School?

Hinta

7/29/15 10:12pm

Like we need more lawyers...let alone yewt law grads that can't pass the bar.

zonacougar

7/29/15 10:27pm

and who can't find jobs after graduating

HarlemCoug

7/30/15 12:23am

toche'

ColonelMustard7

7/30/15 10:40am

build in a .5% tax on all For Profit entities the church run and funnel it to

kotacoug

7/29/15 10:18pm

Not a big deal

Pops of Big Y Fan

7/29/15 10:19pm

The church dropped a billion on a mall...

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:41pm

The Church spends a lot of money keeping BYU

Random Walk

7/29/15 10:44pm

As they should... They own it after all. Where else would

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:53pm

They could if we moved our stadium right next to the temple and HQ

darkcoug

7/29/15 10:53pm

Haha. Good point!

SaintGeorgeYFan

7/29/15 10:56pm

what does BOT stand for?

LVCougarFan

7/29/15 11:18pm

Board of Trustees

holla at cha boi

7/29/15 11:26pm

Last name BOT. First name RO...nevermind

FILIKU

7/30/15 1:13am

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