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Aug 28, 2015
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coolblue
With all this NFL talent you speak of, how come Crowton only won 5 games.
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Interesting side note to Payne's FG choke vs Boise St in 2004...
icecougar
8/28/15 2:34pm
True but....
scottm
8/28/15 2:39pm
bottom line was to win 6 games and a win over Boise St gives him 6...
icecougar
8/28/15 2:44pm
OTOH, a win over Boise may have changed the attitude on the team
mogelijk
8/28/15 3:46pm
momentum builds culture for sure....
icecougar
8/28/15 4:40pm
That was Stanford.
TeeKaa
8/28/15 3:10pm
What happened in the last week that has generated all these pro-Crowton
Bostonblue
8/28/15 2:39pm
not to mention the constant haranguing of Payne
blucoug18
8/28/15 2:45pm
I think that miss shook his confidence
donnerstag
8/28/15 3:10pm
it shook a lot of us. I was stunned...
icecougar
8/28/15 3:42pm
Payne was an awesome player...an even better person.
BYUHgrad
8/28/15 7:52pm
The players I;ve spoken to loved crowton as a person
scottm
8/28/15 2:45pm
Crowton did the right thing after the 2001 team's core players graduated
donnerstag
8/28/15 2:57pm
It's absolutely the case. Three straight losing seasons for the
Bostonblue
8/28/15 3:22pm
Crowt on was building for the future
donnerstag
8/28/15 8:42pm
I got to hand it to you. You have no fear standing alone in your thoughts.
Bostonblue
8/28/15 9:15pm
There are multiple posters that agree with me
donnerstag
8/28/15 9:32pm
Good to know that you got a couple of comrades who got your back.
Bostonblue
8/28/15 9:36pm
The proof is how many NFL players and college stars
donnerstag
8/29/15 6:43am
The measure of success is certainly not NFL players (although yewts would hope
Bostonblue
8/29/15 8:59am
Coaches can't be judged by wins and losses alone
donnerstag
8/29/15 9:24am
No coach can survive three straight losing seasons at a program with the history
Bostonblue
8/29/15 9:31am
Crowton won a National Championship at LSU
donnerstag
8/29/15 6:54am
It's the Jimmy Carter effect.
QuickCoug
8/28/15 3:07pm
There was going to be a recession in BYU football with or without Crowton
donnerstag
8/28/15 3:20pm
The coach you are denigrating has the stadium named after him.
Bostonblue
8/28/15 3:24pm
Lavell was the man!
donnerstag
8/28/15 3:29pm
Crowton had 4 years to create a winner and failed.
Bostonblue
8/28/15 3:37pm
Why does everyone forget that it was Mike Borich that was the man. He was why
indocoug
8/28/15 4:23pm
or the Obama effect. Hey, that last guy actually wasn't so bad...
doubleduce
8/28/15 5:22pm
winning solves a lot of problems...
icecougar
8/28/15 3:35pm
With all this NFL talent you speak of, how come Crowton only won 5 games.
coolblue
8/28/15 2:43pm
The NFL talent was very young in 2004
donnerstag
8/28/15 2:55pm
Did you not see the SOS for that season?
Kerbouchard
8/28/15 2:59pm
Because he wasn't a good coach.
Walter Bellhaven
8/28/15 3:14pm
many were still young and inexperienced in '04 they also played #11 toughest SoS
icecougar
8/28/15 3:19pm
He still would have been fired. Losing games was just a small part
byubyu
8/28/15 2:45pm
Beck was hardly a guy that looked like NFL talent that year.
RaggaeCoug
8/28/15 2:54pm
Beck was already good with an upward trajectory
donnerstag
8/28/15 2:59pm
That wasn't Payne's choke, it was Crowton's
Walter Bellhaven
8/28/15 3:13pm
IIRC in that game, we tried to center the ball on 1st down.
SpiffCoug
8/28/15 4:12pm
This doesn't explain 2002 or 2003...
WhiteKnight
8/28/15 9:29pm
Glad one point was brought up
ajweston
8/28/15 11:57pm
Bronco inherited a talented and experienced team
donnerstag
8/29/15 6:32am
inaccurate portrayal
icecougar
8/29/15 4:14pm
Ohhhh, now we're blaming all of BYU's ills on Mitch Payne...
Jomo
8/29/15 12:15am
who is saying it's an ill?
icecougar
9/2/15 11:09pm
I guess you can't type out saracasm.... sigh
Jomo
9/3/15 12:19am
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