I agree with that.

Aug 29, 2015
2:35:11pm

CMuehle

I agree with that.

I don't think Nelson was the kind of QB that could carry a team on his back, the USU game notwithstanding. But, when healthy, he was good enough to get the win if he was surrounded by decent players.

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CMuehle

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The only player I've bashed in all my years on cougarboard is Riley Nelson

dixdog

8/29/15 12:18pm

RE: The only player I've bashed in all my years on cougarboard is Riley Nelson

Bravescoug

8/29/15 12:20pm

He told them. Coaches knew about it. They just blew it in identifying

Shimmy

8/29/15 12:24pm

RE: He told them. Coaches knew about it. They just blew it in identifying

Bravescoug

8/29/15 12:46pm

I've rarely seen a player so obviously drugged up to play -- he would have been

cougfromcali

8/29/15 7:45pm

If Riley was hurt and didn't tell coaches, then whose fault was it...?

BabyOx

8/29/15 12:50pm

Coaches knew the injury, and it is an injury you can play through. Bryce Petty

Shimmy

8/29/15 12:57pm

But in lead up to the first game he played w/ the injury he didn't practice

SpiffCoug

8/29/15 1:22pm

And it was Bronco overuling Doman. Doman wanted Lark.

byubyu

8/29/15 1:45pm

Do you think that does anything other than prove my point?

Shimmy

8/29/15 4:45pm

Right, but if Riley didn't practice in the lead up to the game, how could

SpiffCoug

8/29/15 4:49pm

If he didn't practice because of the pain, then he shouldn't play.

Shimmy

8/29/15 4:56pm

Which is what I think the case was. Riley didn't practice all week.

SpiffCoug

8/29/15 5:04pm

Yeah. It was dumb. Riley may have been good to go, still dumb

Shimmy

8/29/15 5:09pm

RE: If Riley was hurt and didn't tell coaches, then whose fault was it...?

Bravescoug

8/29/15 12:57pm

Riley was ineffective even when healthy. And you didn't answer my question.

BabyOx

8/29/15 1:24pm

What statistic can you point to that shows Nelson was ineffective when healthy?

CMuehle

8/29/15 1:30pm

Sr. Year he fumbled 9 times (9 times? 9 times...) threw as many Int's as TD's

BabyOx

8/29/15 1:39pm

I'll repeat, what statistic can you point to that shows Nelson was

CMuehle

8/29/15 1:47pm

A healthy Nelson gives BYU a great chance to win

byubyu

8/29/15 2:21pm

I agree with that.

CMuehle

8/29/15 2:35pm

He was healthy his sophomore year, and his QB efficiency rating was even lower

BabyOx

8/29/15 2:26pm

No, he wasn't healthy his sophomore year.

CMuehle

8/29/15 2:32pm

Can you show me a stat that shows he was effective? He was adequate at best,

BabyOx

8/29/15 2:35pm

Here's some stats.

CMuehle

8/29/15 2:40pm

Wow, 9-1 against powerhouses like Hawaii, Idaho, NMSU, Idaho State and SJSU. And

BabyOx

8/29/15 2:49pm

9-1 is 9-1.

CMuehle

8/29/15 3:04pm

I agree. Whose job is it to not play someone when they are ineffective?

Bravescoug

8/29/15 2:03pm

Bronco carried blame just like Riley, two clueless peas in a pod.

BabyOx

8/29/15 2:13pm

RE: Bronco carried blame just like Riley, two clueless peas in a pod.

Bravescoug

8/29/15 2:26pm

the coaches knew he was hurt

macaroni

8/29/15 2:23pm

When Riley was healthy, he was actually a good qb

idcougarfan

8/29/15 3:11pm

It's not his fault because others have done it too? Not following you.

Real Men Wear Blue

8/29/15 7:08pm

The bottom line is the coaches decide who plays.

Bravescoug

8/29/15 8:38pm

Was it really bashing ...or just stating the truth.

WJCougar

8/29/15 12:22pm

It was definitely bashing. I was part of it, and it went too far IMHO with the

Shimmy

8/29/15 12:24pm

I've bashed other players but I regret it. As long as they hustle, they don't

Shimmy

8/29/15 12:23pm

Welp, I've done my fair share of bashing. I will definitely work on tbat

Mathew

8/29/15 12:26pm

RE: Welp, I've done my fair share of bashing. I will definitely work on tbat

Shimmy

8/29/15 12:28pm

"as long as they hustle" Good to know I was okay to bash Chambers.

BabyOx

8/29/15 12:52pm

I'll disagree on a few different fronts - first, players all the time in many

BYUfan92

8/29/15 12:36pm

Yeah, Warner played most the year with a broken hand

Dr T-bone

8/29/15 12:40pm

A couple of things.

CMuehle

8/29/15 1:02pm

even if we presume riley "lied" to coaches RE his health that doesn't change

nashty

8/29/15 1:31pm

You're wrong. The coaches and team doctors knew 100 percent

byubyu

8/29/15 1:34pm

It wasn't Riley's job to take himself out; that's the coaches' job.

HawkCat

8/29/15 1:47pm

We've never had this discussion on here before

HendyCoug

8/29/15 1:52pm

ha ha. Yep. I should just delete my post. No new ground to discuss.

dixdog

8/29/15 1:58pm

Great idea! Glad you thought of it.

HawkCat

8/29/15 2:04pm

The whole Rileygate episode took a toll on TNT's committment to BYU football

TNT

8/29/15 2:18pm

He wasn't hiding that his back was broke

NorthBayCoug

8/29/15 2:30pm

The BYU D was to Riley what Taysom is to the BYU D now. It masked how truly bad

BabyOx

8/29/15 2:45pm

Heaps played against Ole Miss, not Riley. Try again.

HawkCat

8/29/15 2:50pm

I'm aware of that, the Ole Miss game was cited as an example of the D winning

BabyOx

8/29/15 3:05pm

Nice edit to throw Heaps name in there. Sure you did buddy. Sure you did.

HawkCat

8/29/15 3:11pm

Nonsense. What are trainers and coaches for?

HighHorse

8/29/15 3:59pm

Everyone knew Riley shouldn't have played the last three games that he did.

mantis mutu

8/29/15 4:11pm

It is not Riley's position to take himself out of the game. He thought he could

pappabear246

8/29/15 4:07pm

It's amazing you're dumb enough to think

shakarocks

8/29/15 4:43pm

They should've. But they didn't.

mantis mutu

8/29/15 4:48pm

Oh yes they did

shakarocks

8/29/15 4:52pm

You don't let guys play with a broken back vertebrae. No way do I believe this.

mantis mutu

8/29/15 4:56pm

Then you're as dumb as the original poster

shakarocks

8/29/15 5:05pm

Way to make it personal

Bgash

8/29/15 5:46pm

I personally hate it when people lie

shakarocks

8/29/15 5:57pm

I know for a fact the coaches knew. Which is why

byubyu

8/29/15 6:19pm

Yup

shakarocks

8/29/15 6:35pm

Signed, Tony Romo and the Dallas Cowboys. you can play with a broken back.

macaroni

8/29/15 6:57pm

Bryce Petty had the same injury last year. Played just fine.

Shimmy

8/30/15 10:29am

No, only Riley and every other fan knew it. He hid it from coaches, trainers and

pappabear246

8/29/15 5:03pm

Does CB really have to rehash this every other week?

Bgash

8/29/15 5:20pm

Yes

TNT

8/29/15 6:50pm

If TNT says so, then its fine w/ me. You may proceed.

Bgash

8/29/15 9:27pm

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