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Apr 29, 2016
7:21:43pm

Abe Froman All-American

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Originally posted on Apr 29, 2016 at 7:21:43pm

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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
Bio page: Abe Froman
Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Last login: Apr 28, 2024
Total posts: 86,615 (7,631 FO)

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interesting defense of the honor code by non lds professor

BYUtiful All-American

4/29/16 7:53am

Great article! Thanks for posting

Reborncoug

4/29/16 8:07am

Thanks for the share. We need to maintain an honor code and an office, but

4/29/16 8:10am

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 8:36am

While the claim is not fully studied, to say it is absurd is absurd. The

CDV

4/29/16 8:42am

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 8:57am

It's absurd to say he's absurd for thinking your claim of absurdity is absurd

runnincoug

4/29/16 9:55am

Its absurd to say that its absurd to say that calling that absurd claim is

CDV

4/29/16 11:19am

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 6:32pm

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cvd6262

4/29/16 6:51pm

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 7:21pm

No and nobody is saying that. The 1 in 5 number is for assault, not rape

CDV

4/29/16 7:07pm

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 7:14pm

I don't know. Why are you so convinced the number is so far off? Clearly you

CDV

4/29/16 11:11pm

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Abe Froman

4/30/16 9:36am

Problem is, what counts as assault? Someone kissed you before you were ready?

runnincoug

4/29/16 10:19pm

Anyone arguing to get rid of an honor code system at BYU is up in the night (esp

Preppy

4/29/16 8:39am

I notice he still suggests HCO amnesty as the obvious solution

DapperDan

4/29/16 8:42am

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Buffalo

4/29/16 8:47am

It's a perfectly reasonable solution. That's why so many people keep suggesting

DapperDan

4/29/16 9:01am

I agree. And what's the harm?

Reborncoug

4/29/16 9:03am

Which does provide an interesting conundrum. Would the number of false sexual

My Soapbox

4/29/16 9:09am

if the facts of the case materially change they then get the book thrown at them

mottman

4/29/16 9:13am

One would hope for the integrity of the system, but as has been pointed out

My Soapbox

4/29/16 9:19am

I'm fine with amnesty involving events immediately surrounding the assault but not across the board.

soupie

4/29/16 9:24am

I missed that... why is that unrealistic?

Reborncoug

4/29/16 9:02am

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Buffalo

4/29/16 9:15am

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cvd6262

4/29/16 9:54am

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Abe Froman

4/29/16 9:56am

If it leads to student being better able to report

Reborncoug

4/29/16 10:13am

Can anyone on this board provide me with the revelation on how the HC came to be

Gene Frenkle

4/29/16 7:28pm

What's the point of a law or rule if there is no enforcement or accountability?

Preppy

4/29/16 8:14pm

You did not answer my question in my post?

Gene Frenkle

4/30/16 7:18am

Don't know the answer. Was addressing the idea to be rid of any HC enforcement.

Preppy

4/30/16 8:58am

"Men and women are forbidden to be in a room together without supervision." ??

HenderCoug

4/29/16 9:31pm

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