Its really not his fault that it isnt happening.

May 3, 2016
11:19:39am

OliverGranger All-American

Do you want to be in the same conference with the FLDS Prairie Scooners, led by prophet Warren Jeffs? This is the way we are perceived by secular universities. It sucks, but its true. They do not want us.

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OliverGranger

Previous username: SaltLakeCoug
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If the B12 expands and doesnt pick BYU it's on Tom and Worthen. You're the best

Blueto

5/3/16 8:29am

Rumors are that the BYU negotiating team ticked off Big 12

TNT

5/3/16 8:31am

team of lawyers can always anger those that don't share a beer

digitalayon

5/3/16 9:01am

Afraid this may be the case but hoping otherwise.

soupie

5/3/16 9:04am

Not true. It never got nearly far enough along for such a scenario.

RugbyCoug

5/3/16 9:34am

Confirmed to me by a HC at BYU.

Walter Bellhaven

5/3/16 9:36am

A hot cousin?

Fetchin Fetcher

5/3/16 12:31pm

Not true, it didn't even get that far. Not saying it wouldn't happen though

Ghost

5/3/16 10:00am

Just stop, TNT. That's a crap rumor, and repeating it perpetuates it.

Abe Froman

5/3/16 11:29am

It was told to me by a former BYU, now UVa coach. Luckily bad impressions can be

sickwizardfish1

5/3/16 1:38pm

Uh huh.... sure.... We got a true insider here folks!

Fetchin Fetcher

5/3/16 1:54pm

Nobody negotiated anything with the B12 in 2011. That was the Big East who said

QBfactoryclosed

5/3/16 11:38am

Wish people would stop spreading false rumors. They didn't upset anyone - period! Once again, my friend within

Cougarpride

5/3/16 2:39pm

^^^^^The guy who unknowingly ticked everybody off^^^^^^

jrj84105

5/3/16 3:30pm

Kidding or not your probably right

ABCoug

5/3/16 9:14pm

You know, you're version doesn't match unsubstantiated internet rumors and

RebelScum

5/3/16 8:37pm

LOL

Cougarpride

5/3/16 8:40pm

You have a friend in the BIG 12 offices!! Is this friend still there?

SnickSnack

5/4/16 4:25pm

Still there and working everyday - involved in all meetings and discussions. Great thing is he has zero ties to BYU

Cougarpride

5/4/16 4:46pm

stop perpetuating myths

yahtzee

5/3/16 4:24pm

You lost me at "Rumors are....".

Rocketman

5/3/16 9:39pm

I don't see how you could possibly

JKLCoug

5/3/16 8:33am

or bigotry.

Mister P

5/3/16 8:34am

The bigotry theory doesn't jive well with the "money is all that matters" theory

Zach Morris

5/3/16 8:39am

I see it as bigotry and $. But not bigotry against BYU, but the

QBarrister

5/3/16 8:50am

That seems reasonable.

Zach Morris

5/3/16 8:52am

I disagree with the reality of this statement

SnickSnack

5/3/16 10:11am

The head you put the bigotry hat on is just semantics

teancum

5/3/16 10:58am

or geography

AtlantaCoug

5/3/16 8:37am

This is Holmoe's Waterloo for sure

Smoke Monster

5/3/16 8:41am

I don't think he'll be remembered as a horrible AD but he should be remembered

Zach Morris

5/3/16 8:47am

Its really not his fault that it isnt happening.

OliverGranger

5/3/16 11:19am

Wow... just... well... wow.

Smoke Monster

5/3/16 12:39pm

Wow, I've read a lot of dumb comments on CB, many of them my own, but this ranks

Texas Hammer

5/3/16 2:04pm

He just used extreme examples, but there is no denying that some people in

Polecat

5/3/16 9:22pm

Yes, I do.

Kerbouchard

5/3/16 6:49pm

Would make for a cool documentary. If TH wore google glass or somehow

QBarrister

5/3/16 8:52am

I really disagree.

Future_Tacos

5/3/16 8:55am

This is a very good post

youngster

5/3/16 9:27am

I blame the LDS Church

kiyoshige

5/3/16 11:21am

So does Neon Trees.

Future_Tacos

5/3/16 7:42pm

If BYU is added to B12, Tom and Worthen deserve incredible credit.

CosmoK

5/3/16 8:57am

This statement is very true.

Blueto

5/3/16 9:23am

False

darkcoug

5/3/16 9:04am

I think 95% of BYU fans don't expect us to get an invite and I'm not blaming

franklyvulgar

5/3/16 9:04am

The Big 12 has proven time after time that it is run by morons

Caboom

5/3/16 9:08am

People can't fathom they don't want us they see all the benefits

franklyvulgar

5/3/16 9:11am

It was a different landscape in 2011 but those events may have poisoned the B12 long term. Back then

soupie

5/3/16 9:14am

It isn't that black or white. Or at least we'll never know if it is or not.

Walter Bellhaven

5/3/16 9:37am

I get that it is nuanced but I'm going bottom line, just like Kalani has to

Blueto

5/3/16 10:06am

Apples and oranges.

Walter Bellhaven

5/3/16 10:14am

Definitely the fault of Worthen and Holmoe that BYU is owned by the LDS Church.

zonacougar

5/3/16 9:41am

I agree with this since closing the deal is CRITICAL to BYU's future; however

RillDill

5/3/16 9:43am

Problem is, Big12 is looking for someone with genital warts. TcU, Cincy have it

Y4LYFE

5/3/16 10:11am

If they don't pick us, there may very well have been absolutely nothing Tom or Worthen could have done...

BengalCougar

5/3/16 10:18am

Pretty ignorant post

chazen

5/3/16 10:33am

Yea, Tom and Kevin, since you have total power over voting rights and

BYU I Bleed Blue

5/3/16 10:36am

I love the reference to "fake liking independence." Haha, so true

WhyKnot

5/3/16 11:02am

It's relative. Indy better than MWC. Nobody thinks Indy better than B12.

CosmoK

5/3/16 11:11am

no. It is on Mormons being a peculiar people and Big 12/pac 12 being bigots.

idacoug

5/3/16 11:14am

Until Worthen and Holmoe find a way to detach BYU from the LDS church

Backcountry

5/3/16 11:25am

That will never happen.

BostonCougar

5/3/16 11:33am

Of course. And I wouldn't want it to. Just saying that BYU will never be P5.

Backcountry

5/3/16 12:09pm

I see it the other way around. If BYU is added, Tom and Kevin deserve our

YIsForBrigham

5/3/16 11:46am

It is on them, mostly TH. A legacy defining moment. HERO or FAILURE!

byucougarsbig12

5/3/16 8:50pm

How on earth did you reach that conclusion? Tom and President Worthen can't control who are selected

Cougarpride

5/3/16 1:50pm

Fake independence?! Some of us actually like it.

digitalayon

5/3/16 2:25pm

Is it preferable to have UNLV & Idaho St...or

BYUFam1

5/3/16 5:32pm

Agreed. The buck stops with them. TH already blew it once also.

Kerbouchard

5/3/16 6:49pm

Could be 12-43 football coach, 0-2 AD, BUT ONE BIG12 invite=LOVE YOU!

byucougarsbig12

5/3/16 9:03pm

I don't believe that they will be solely responsible if we don't get in

Harrison0Yfan

5/3/16 7:38pm

Maybe they should follow the Nephites lead and send some top notch wine

Q-grr

5/3/16 7:45pm

Completely agree. Massive failure on those two.

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