If you guys don't understand why Drage was so good you don't understand football

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Oct 26, 2016
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Horacio Caine

Previous username: ExCougar
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RE: Collie

credfern84

10/26/16 10:17am

Collie made Max Hall a lot better than he actually was. Also Pitta. Go back and

SandYFan

10/26/16 10:20am

Solid point

credfern84

10/26/16 10:26am

Hoffman for sure caught terribly thrown passes a lot. Just saying Collie

SandYFan

10/26/16 10:27am

Definitely a great route runner

credfern84

10/26/16 10:29am

A Max Hall comment would be easier to believe coming from literally anyone else

southernfriedcougar

10/26/16 10:40am

If Hoffman had Collie's work ethic and route running ability, he'd be in the NFL

RaggaeCoug

10/26/16 10:20am

He is, isn't he? Who just signed a practice deal?

BYUFBDAD

10/26/16 10:22am

Practice squad on the Montreal Alouettes.

TheLoneCougar

10/26/16 10:23am

I'm confused then, somebody just got picked up

BYUFBDAD

10/26/16 10:24am

Jordan Leslie. I edited the post and provided a link above.

TheLoneCougar

10/26/16 10:24am

That's it, thanks.

BYUFBDAD

10/26/16 10:36am

Leslie and Mitch are on the practice squad for the Browns. Just got picked up.

BPintheCouv

10/26/16 10:25am

Yea seemed there were a few rumors that Hoff relied on natural talent

credfern84

10/26/16 10:24am

I was pretty good friends with him....

RaggaeCoug

10/26/16 10:26am

I don't always pass, but when I do, I pass to Collie. -tmIMitW

RealityCheck

10/26/16 1:06pm

I had a good friend who was his tutor for a couple of classes.

jensen46

10/26/16 12:22pm

Hoffman wasn't nearly the athlete Collie was

donnerstag

10/26/16 11:23am

Collie was also sharing production with Pitta and some other solid receivers.

srey

10/26/16 10:25am

True. Good point. Hoffs numbers were probably inflated because of that

credfern84

10/26/16 10:27am

It also speaks to Hoff's talent to be the only target and still have crazy

srey

10/26/16 10:30am

Collie also didn't have to make the catch with DBs draped all over him because he actually ran crisp routes and got open

Kajdin

10/26/16 10:30am

Hoffman was not as fluid as Collie and could not get the same separation...hence

NOCAL_YFAN

10/26/16 10:31am

Yea shame he had the concussions

credfern84

10/26/16 10:37am

He did have a top QB, but there were other receivers to throw to and some on the

Kougrage

10/26/16 9:40pm

Collie was not just athletic. He was a technician and ran super crisp routes.

CougaRR4L

10/26/16 11:05am

Collie Hoffman go 1-2 in my book. Whos right behind them at 3 and 4? Drage

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/26/16 11:24am

Koz, Drage, Plater, Cahoon, but I'd be tempted to bump a few of those past Hoff

Mot

10/26/16 11:59am

Top WR

mkscougar

10/26/16 2:06pm

You almost sound like you're apologizing for saying Hoffman is better.

provodude84606

10/26/16 11:38am

RE: Collie

emp12

10/26/16 11:38am

Collie had better hands, was faster, quicker, ran better routes, did better against press coverage....

BengalCougar

10/26/16 12:42pm

RE: Collie

dafurball

10/26/16 12:43pm

Collie was so good that if he got single coverage, the QB was to throw to him, no matter what. Only the best get that.

macaroni

10/26/16 12:48pm

Collie was a master route runner, glue for hands, and faster.

AFcoug7

10/26/16 12:53pm

Collie was so good Chuck Norris asked him for advice.

CougarThug

10/26/16 12:54pm

Agreed. 100%. For me, Drage then Hoff. Both before Collie. By far.

Horacio Caine

10/26/16 2:49pm

Yeah, you are just flat out wrong on this.

BengalCougar

10/26/16 4:19pm

Also, Riley Nelson may be the best QB BYU has ever had.

Mike Ross

10/26/16 5:27pm

If you guys don't understand why Drage was so good you don't understand football

Horacio Caine

10/26/16 9:13pm

If you don't understand why Collie was much better, you're more clueless than

Mike Ross

10/26/16 11:15pm

I just remember the TCU game where TCU dominated the entire game except Collie.

bangarang

10/26/16 2:58pm

Collie > Hoffman

Bryceo19

10/26/16 2:59pm

Try to remember Jay Miller and Phil Odle

Bullrider

10/26/16 3:38pm

Difference between collie hoff and Drage...

Horacio Caine

10/26/16 3:53pm

Haha Collie was not very coverable, and he was a better route runner than Drage. No offense to Drage...

BengalCougar

10/26/16 4:16pm

That is true. When Collie got injured he was leading the NFL in receptions

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/26/16 4:24pm

He was going to be an all pro that year without the concussions. But according to Horacio, Drage and Hoffman...

BengalCougar

10/26/16 4:42pm

Drage was awesome. I was in school when he was playing. Collie was

Born2Fish

10/26/16 5:08pm

Absolutely agree, I was not trying to tear down Drage, he was very good. Just saying Collie was clearly better.

BengalCougar

10/26/16 5:09pm

One of the reasons we got killed a couple years in a row by tcu is because

Horacio Caine

10/26/16 9:20pm

Who did drage play against? TCU had top 5 defenses those seasons

srey

10/26/16 9:30pm

Love Drage, but he had a better passing offense to play in against weaker teams

Mot

10/26/16 10:37pm

Exactly, and despite playing in those very good passing offenses and playing 4 years compared to Collie's 3 years....

BengalCougar

10/27/16 1:38am

Collie played against TCU twice, he had over 100 yards in both games. Collie did well against press coverage...

BengalCougar

10/27/16 1:25am

And let's break down the TCU games Collie played in since you are so focused on those games....

BengalCougar

10/27/16 1:36am

I was a huge fan of Drage. Yuuuge. But Collie was the better receiver. Period.

unctoothman

10/27/16 6:48am

COLLIE benefitted from his QB? do you not remember who was throwing drage the ball???

macaroni

10/27/16 11:55am

They aren't even close.

Gerald-DeGroot

10/26/16 4:07pm

Hoffman was great, love him, but Collie is in a different echelon.

PJMort

10/26/16 5:12pm

Why doesn't anyone bring up Golden Richards?

ClackamasCoug

10/26/16 5:18pm

You are forgetting how great Collie was. It isn't even close.

oldrugger

10/26/16 6:38pm

Amen. Can we get rid of cahoon and hire him as WR coach?

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