Fan support plays a big part in program success for a lot of reasons.

Jan 5, 2017
11:31:12am

benny1982 All-American

AD funds, crowd noise/support, etc., all play a big part in making a successful basketball program. Don't dismiss every criticism of the WCC that isn't "on the court" just because you're sensitive to the small gym smack.

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Nick Emery just explained why Byu hasn't won the WCC yet

seryran

1/5/17 11:05am

RE: Nick Emery just explained why Byu hasn't won the WCC yet

Indy Coug

1/5/17 11:08am

You are correct - and question for you

OC Coug

1/5/17 11:09am

You're right, this should absolutely not be tolerated!

buhler08

1/5/17 11:13am

No lets just keep it going as is, these deep NIT runs are awesome

OC Coug

1/5/17 11:22am

That is completely unrelated to your original comment

buhler08

1/5/17 11:31am

Behavior exists because its tolerated

OC Coug

1/5/17 11:43am

OK if it's tolerated, then there should be a history of past events

Indy Coug

1/5/17 11:47am

Uh no, this is a fruit of the issue

OC Coug

1/5/17 12:18pm

If that's your response, then I really can't take your criticisms seriously

Indy Coug

1/5/17 12:33pm

Just to chime in

seryran

1/5/17 12:39pm

You think Dave Rose's teams are disciplined?

OC Coug

1/5/17 12:42pm

You really don't know what you are talking about

buhler08

1/5/17 12:52pm

30.9% of BYU's total FGA are from 3 point range. 297th in the nation

Indy Coug

1/5/17 12:55pm

Uhh I don't judge basketball discipline by number of 3s taken

OC Coug

1/5/17 1:05pm

BYU's offensive efficiency has been too high for too long to

Indy Coug

1/5/17 1:13pm

Yeap its been a fantastic offensive efficiency that makes

OC Coug

1/5/17 1:40pm

BYU's offensive problems in the first half was because they couldn't hit a shot

Indy Coug

1/5/17 1:48pm

You keep bringing up the NIT

buhler08

1/5/17 1:25pm

You do realize that BYU has more HS talent and resources at its disposal

OC Coug

1/5/17 1:48pm

KenPom rates our D 63rd this year, not bad considering how young this team is

ayfan

1/5/17 1:26pm

Head games

pac12stickerhater

1/5/17 5:11pm

This is possibly the dumbest post of CB ever. History made!

Circaman12

1/5/17 1:30pm

He wouldn't be happy to say the least

seryran

1/5/17 11:15am

RE: Nick Emery just explained why Byu hasn't won the WCC yet

cougfanblue

1/5/17 11:09am

Actually the reason why we have not won a WCC yet is this:

BYUheaven

1/5/17 11:10am

But Byu has split with the Zags almost each year

seryran

1/5/17 11:16am

...which makes Gonzaga a better basketball program than us right now

SingleStrapBackpack

1/5/17 11:21am

because Gonzaga has had more depth!

warp

1/5/17 11:23am

I thought that depth was the strength of this team.

Linkcoug

1/5/17 8:24pm

That's killing the narrative

OC Coug

1/5/17 11:23am

H2H isn't the only indicator of program strength. BYU hasn't had the talent

benny1982

1/5/17 11:27am

We beat you the last two years because KC went crazy on you guys.

BYUheaven

1/5/17 11:36am

Exactly, Gonzaga is the better team. They don't loose to the cream puffs.

TheLoneCougar

1/5/17 12:09pm

Gonzaga wins when it matters most.

idacoug

1/5/17 2:08pm

RE: Gonzaga wins when it matters most.

Trigger

1/5/17 2:43pm

That and Gonzaga is good and serious talent issues at BYU. The front court

johnnybyu

1/5/17 11:10am

Well, also we haven't had a year where we were even considered the best team

rcbyufan

1/5/17 11:10am

I definitely agree that this was a pretty dumb move.

jensen46

1/5/17 11:11am

I'll take that

seryran

1/5/17 11:30am

Understandable.

jensen46

1/5/17 11:39am

I could buy this being why we haven't won yet. It is clearly speculation

TheLoneCougar

1/5/17 12:11pm

no disagreement from me. WCC has been nothing but class to BYU.

Cougarclaw

1/5/17 11:12am

The reason we haven't won the WCC is we haven't had great teams since Jimmer

ayfan

1/5/17 11:15am

While this is true, still think the OP makes a fair yet embarrassing point. Just think the gym size smack is

soupie

1/5/17 11:17am

I can never keep up with kids. So now they're using "histogram"?

Grit for Brains

1/5/17 11:17am

Yep, BYU players need to stop worrying about the size of the arena.

benny1982

1/5/17 11:17am

BYU has not won because they have not had the best team...

CoastalCoug

1/5/17 11:18am

Fans make comments all the time

seryran

1/5/17 11:32am

Unfortunately, a Zags fan with the POTD

warp

1/5/17 11:20am

Good arguement and Greif

stonecougar

1/5/17 11:22am

Yeah it was more of a rant

seryran

1/5/17 11:28am

Fan support plays a big part in program success for a lot of reasons.

benny1982

1/5/17 11:31am

That's fair about my personal feelings

seryran

1/5/17 11:35am

And I disagree. BYU has rarely had the depth to overcome bad games from their

benny1982

1/5/17 11:42am

Vast majority of our fans (IMO) think gym size smack is weak and plain stupid

SingleStrapBackpack

1/5/17 11:24am

all other things equal Size matters

stonecougar

1/5/17 11:29am

CB posters during every single major televised sporting event make comments

Polecat

1/5/17 1:55pm

The inverse relationship between those who bash size of St Mary's gym and intellect is a valuable CB indicator. Emery's

roseyscenario

1/5/17 11:34am

Someone let Mark Few know that you're not supposed to rail on these programs

Westsider

1/5/17 11:38am

He wants these schools to make more of an effort

seryran

1/5/17 11:46am

And how do you find more $ to pay coaches?

Westsider

1/5/17 12:05pm

I'm perfectly fine with complaining about the quality of the teams

seryran

1/5/17 12:12pm

I've been on record a lot as saying I don't give a rip about gym size. Quality

gwalker

1/5/17 11:50am

I think realistic fans understand that the size of the gym doesn't mean anything

TheLoneCougar

1/5/17 12:06pm

Not to be nitpicky

tcherrin

1/5/17 12:23pm

I didn't see the game live

seryran

1/5/17 12:30pm

Fair enough

tcherrin

1/5/17 3:40pm

I agree. Not a fan of disrespecting the small resources of other schools

Harrison0Yfan

1/5/17 12:33pm

Disagree on a few things you say, here are my thoughts.

BYUfan92

1/5/17 12:39pm

Understand your points completely, my responses

seryran

1/5/17 1:12pm

Something out of nothing... Nothing wrong with a little fire.

Katewot

1/5/17 12:45pm

Utah fans are pretty concerned about the gym size of our competition and

Jericho

1/5/17 12:53pm

RE: Utah fans are pretty concerned about the gym size of our competition and

MJGoGaels

1/5/17 1:02pm

Utah is on a 2-game skid to WCC teams.

Gentleman Stan

1/5/17 3:45pm

RE: Nick Emery just explained why Byu hasn't won the WCC yet

MJGoGaels

1/5/17 1:12pm

Ha..."GodisaCougar.com" – now that's something Utah fans would comment on

SingleStrapBackpack

1/5/17 1:47pm

Question:

Gentleman Stan

1/5/17 4:09pm

No disagreement here. I would like for our fans and players to focus on winning

BringYourUltimate

1/5/17 1:28pm

histogram? Like this?

BW84

1/5/17 1:35pm

I think most of us here agree with you.

jkccoug

1/5/17 1:39pm

I don't think you'll get much disagreement here. Nick has been pilloried today.

Real Men Wear Blue

1/5/17 1:53pm

"Pilloried"...good word!

socorny

1/5/17 2:27pm

Post of the day

hammergm

1/5/17 2:28pm

I love playing the SMU Waels.

SuperTank

1/5/17 3:39pm

There is only one reason why BYU hasn't won the WCC...

BE-WHY-YOU

1/5/17 3:49pm

Another reason...just not being very good.

DoseOfReality

1/5/17 4:02pm

I'll defend Emery here. Your post is so over the top, it's silly, and wrong on

Iman23

1/5/17 4:03pm

Gonzaga coach called out the programs in the WCC as well. There seems to be

Gene Frenkle

1/5/17 7:59pm

They are beginning upgrades at the end of this season.

Gentleman Stan

1/5/17 9:29pm

"Byu has literally the only fan base that is obsessed...

LDTemplar

1/5/17 8:17pm

You could probably probably use a nap right about now don't cha little boy

seryran

1/5/17 10:04pm

And again why I hate CB at times. Where do you come up with this crap?

RaggaeCoug

1/5/17 8:31pm

Great post sir

Bgash

1/5/17 9:06pm

This is so stupid. Why can't players and fans just take a harmless jab

RunningQB

1/5/17 9:51pm

Great post and I couldn't agree more I'm just curious

rmemory

1/5/17 10:59pm

Few reasons

seryran

1/5/17 11:55pm

BYU hasn't won because Gonzaga has built a great program

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