I remember that....that was very disheartening. Especially with us mired in a...

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May 27, 2017
8:35:41pm

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...losing streak. We then went out and found another crappy way to lose and look unprepared at the same time

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Observations about the Utah rivalry since 2005 from a guy who tutored some of the players.

sakhr 3rd String

5/27/17 6:25pm

They took the week off when they had a bye B4 Utah. Wanted BM gone since

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 6:30pm

I remember that....that was very disheartening. Especially with us mired in a...

icecougar

5/27/17 8:35pm

Nothing shocking there. This was one of my biggest beefs with Bronco.

Kerbouchard

5/27/17 6:31pm

To say the coaches didn't care about a rivalry game is a huge generalization.

TheLoneCougar

5/27/17 6:49pm

He's going off of a very small sample size...not surprised by the post either.

coug10278

5/27/17 6:52pm

You act as if I'm the first to say any of this. Like I said, just the observations of the players I worked with.

sakhr

5/27/17 7:22pm

No, you clearly aren't the first.

TheLoneCougar

5/27/17 7:29pm

That's fine. But let's remember that the head coach never did play in it, and he sets the tone and the direction of the

sakhr

5/27/17 7:34pm

I never said "coaches value the rivalry as much as fans".

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:06pm

So you agree with my post then?

sakhr

5/29/17 1:17pm

Where have you been? Were you even paying attention during Bronco's tenure? He

Kerbouchard

5/27/17 9:44pm

And I clearly stated this in my OP. I know what Bronco said, and to a degree

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:09pm

Maybe so, but the results sure didn't bode in their favor

Harrison0Yfan

5/27/17 11:13pm

Agree completely.

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:10pm

"Didnt care enough" then. & Results show that. Obviously a coach cares about

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

5/28/17 2:59am

Agreed. His method may have been lacking, but that doesn't he didn't want to win

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:11pm

Does doing something extra and different for the Utah game become an admission

BYUFBDAD

5/27/17 6:53pm

I think a lot of it comes down to attitude, which is something the guys I knew sensed but even they couldn't put it into

sakhr

5/27/17 7:13pm

Little will change until recruiting becomes 'Top 30' (consistently).

MichCoug

5/27/17 7:38pm

One quibble. Quantity of NFL players proves Utah had better talent.

ALUF 1990

5/27/17 8:09pm

Or it orives the talent was vetter coached... BYU has.been th3 favorite

CarolinaCoug

5/27/17 8:40pm

what do you think a big spread is?

formerly utesplease

5/28/17 1:07am

Two points

jrj84105

5/27/17 8:40pm

That is only complaint agains BM. Lack of preparation and robotic approach.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:18pm

Utah's "surge" ahead is exaggerated

Gustav

5/27/17 9:32pm

It's been coaching. BM was out prepped by whit.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:38pm

it's been our schedule.... you try out-recruiting the Yewts when their schedule was obviously better.

HarlemCoug

5/27/17 9:48pm

Look at 2005 game. BYU was FAR better but lost in OT. Easily out prepared.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:59pm

Utah's Schedule was better than ours between 2005 and 2010? They were both in the MWC. If anything we had bigger games

sakhr

5/27/17 10:04pm

The surge is very very real, but not spectacular. From 2000-2010, Utah averaged

ALUF 1990

5/28/17 9:29am

Proof is in the pudding

Gustav

5/28/17 11:40am

This^^. The entire century, most games have been down to the last min, even the

SoValleyCOUG

5/28/17 12:34pm

If you truly believe this, than KW has underperformed over the past 6 years.

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:17pm

KW has underperformed. The OCs, QBs, and offense in general have been terrible.

jrj84105

5/28/17 6:10pm

3 things. Utahs bad OC, Lots of Utah turnovers, BYU wants it more

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 5:28am

BYU has four future draftees on the entire team? Give me a break.

Harrison0Yfan

5/29/17 8:58am

How many draft picks has BYU had in the last 6 years combined???

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 9:37am

That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new

Harrison0Yfan

5/29/17 10:08am

Utah has been far luckier than BYU

Gustav

5/29/17 9:12am

Luck? The Utes put the ball on the ground approx 15-20 times last game. Luck

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 9:41am

You also might be ignoring the fact that BYU seems to play its worst games

Harrison0Yfan

5/29/17 10:16am

Utah has been very lucky in a lot of their games against BYU

Gustav

5/29/17 7:59pm

BYU was favored in many of these games and the U won outright.

Gene Frenkle

5/27/17 10:06pm

While Bronco does deserve some blame for the current streak

Seasider

5/27/17 10:14pm

I agree, we were outcoached and Utah players were more mentally ready.

oldrugger

5/27/17 10:32pm

BM out coached?? Ya don't say!

zerome4sooners

5/28/17 8:27am

Now look up how many players were drafted from Utah in 2009. It was like 6.

BYU81

5/28/17 8:53am

Players will always blame it on the coaches.

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