That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new

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May 29, 2017
10:08:26am

Harrison0Yfan All-American

That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new

coaching staff with different NFL emphasis. You can't just assume that BYU "only has 4 future draftees" on this current team just because Bronco and his staff (who are all no longer here) typically had those results. You might have an argument with the same staff but it's a massive assumption when we're talking about a staff with completely different approaches.

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Observations about the Utah rivalry since 2005 from a guy who tutored some of the players.

sakhr 3rd String

5/27/17 6:25pm

They took the week off when they had a bye B4 Utah. Wanted BM gone since

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 6:30pm

I remember that....that was very disheartening. Especially with us mired in a...

icecougar

5/27/17 8:35pm

Nothing shocking there. This was one of my biggest beefs with Bronco.

Kerbouchard

5/27/17 6:31pm

To say the coaches didn't care about a rivalry game is a huge generalization.

TheLoneCougar

5/27/17 6:49pm

He's going off of a very small sample size...not surprised by the post either.

coug10278

5/27/17 6:52pm

You act as if I'm the first to say any of this. Like I said, just the observations of the players I worked with.

sakhr

5/27/17 7:22pm

No, you clearly aren't the first.

TheLoneCougar

5/27/17 7:29pm

That's fine. But let's remember that the head coach never did play in it, and he sets the tone and the direction of the

sakhr

5/27/17 7:34pm

I never said "coaches value the rivalry as much as fans".

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:06pm

So you agree with my post then?

sakhr

5/29/17 1:17pm

Where have you been? Were you even paying attention during Bronco's tenure? He

Kerbouchard

5/27/17 9:44pm

And I clearly stated this in my OP. I know what Bronco said, and to a degree

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:09pm

Maybe so, but the results sure didn't bode in their favor

5/27/17 11:13pm

Agree completely.

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:10pm

"Didnt care enough" then. & Results show that. Obviously a coach cares about

NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN

5/28/17 2:59am

Agreed. His method may have been lacking, but that doesn't he didn't want to win

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:11pm

Does doing something extra and different for the Utah game become an admission

BYUFBDAD

5/27/17 6:53pm

I think a lot of it comes down to attitude, which is something the guys I knew sensed but even they couldn't put it into

sakhr

5/27/17 7:13pm

Little will change until recruiting becomes 'Top 30' (consistently).

MichCoug

5/27/17 7:38pm

One quibble. Quantity of NFL players proves Utah had better talent.

ALUF 1990

5/27/17 8:09pm

Or it orives the talent was vetter coached... BYU has.been th3 favorite

5/27/17 8:40pm

what do you think a big spread is?

formerly utesplease

5/28/17 1:07am

Two points

jrj84105

5/27/17 8:40pm

That is only complaint agains BM. Lack of preparation and robotic approach.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:18pm

Utah's "surge" ahead is exaggerated

Gustav

5/27/17 9:32pm

It's been coaching. BM was out prepped by whit.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:38pm

it's been our schedule.... you try out-recruiting the Yewts when their schedule was obviously better.

HarlemCoug

5/27/17 9:48pm

Look at 2005 game. BYU was FAR better but lost in OT. Easily out prepared.

SoValleyCOUG

5/27/17 9:59pm

Utah's Schedule was better than ours between 2005 and 2010? They were both in the MWC. If anything we had bigger games

sakhr

5/27/17 10:04pm

The surge is very very real, but not spectacular. From 2000-2010, Utah averaged

ALUF 1990

5/28/17 9:29am

Proof is in the pudding

Gustav

5/28/17 11:40am

This^^. The entire century, most games have been down to the last min, even the

SoValleyCOUG

5/28/17 12:34pm

If you truly believe this, than KW has underperformed over the past 6 years.

TheLoneCougar

5/28/17 4:17pm

KW has underperformed. The OCs, QBs, and offense in general have been terrible.

jrj84105

5/28/17 6:10pm

3 things. Utahs bad OC, Lots of Utah turnovers, BYU wants it more

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 5:28am

BYU has four future draftees on the entire team? Give me a break.

5/29/17 8:58am

How many draft picks has BYU had in the last 6 years combined???

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 9:37am

That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new

5/29/17 10:08am

Utah has been far luckier than BYU

Gustav

5/29/17 9:12am

Luck? The Utes put the ball on the ground approx 15-20 times last game. Luck

ALUF 1990

5/29/17 9:41am

You also might be ignoring the fact that BYU seems to play its worst games

5/29/17 10:16am

Utah has been very lucky in a lot of their games against BYU

Gustav

5/29/17 7:59pm

BYU was favored in many of these games and the U won outright.

Gene Frenkle

5/27/17 10:06pm

While Bronco does deserve some blame for the current streak

Seasider

5/27/17 10:14pm

I agree, we were outcoached and Utah players were more mentally ready.

oldrugger

5/27/17 10:32pm

BM out coached?? Ya don't say!

5/28/17 8:27am

Now look up how many players were drafted from Utah in 2009. It was like 6.

BYU81

5/28/17 8:53am

Players will always blame it on the coaches.

5/28/17 9:56am

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