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May 27, 2017
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Harrison0Yfan
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Maybe so, but the results sure didn't bode in their favor
Whether they cared about it or not, things clearly warrant a different approach.
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Observations about the Utah rivalry since 2005 from a guy who tutored some of the players.
sakhr
3rd String
5/27/17 6:25pm
They took the week off when they had a bye B4 Utah. Wanted BM gone since
Y4LYFE
5/27/17 6:30pm
I remember that....that was very disheartening. Especially with us mired in a...
icecougar
5/27/17 8:35pm
Nothing shocking there. This was one of my biggest beefs with Bronco.
Kerbouchard
5/27/17 6:31pm
To say the coaches didn't care about a rivalry game is a huge generalization.
TheLoneCougar
5/27/17 6:49pm
He's going off of a very small sample size...not surprised by the post either.
coug10278
5/27/17 6:52pm
You act as if I'm the first to say any of this. Like I said, just the observations of the players I worked with.
sakhr
5/27/17 7:22pm
No, you clearly aren't the first.
TheLoneCougar
5/27/17 7:29pm
That's fine. But let's remember that the head coach never did play in it, and he sets the tone and the direction of the
sakhr
5/27/17 7:34pm
I never said "coaches value the rivalry as much as fans".
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:06pm
So you agree with my post then?
sakhr
5/29/17 1:17pm
Where have you been? Were you even paying attention during Bronco's tenure? He
Kerbouchard
5/27/17 9:44pm
And I clearly stated this in my OP. I know what Bronco said, and to a degree
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:09pm
Maybe so, but the results sure didn't bode in their favor
Harrison0Yfan
5/27/17 11:13pm
Agree completely.
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:10pm
"Didnt care enough" then. & Results show that. Obviously a coach cares about
NotOfYourFaithBYUFAN
5/28/17 2:59am
Agreed. His method may have been lacking, but that doesn't he didn't want to win
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:11pm
Does doing something extra and different for the Utah game become an admission
BYUFBDAD
5/27/17 6:53pm
I think a lot of it comes down to attitude, which is something the guys I knew sensed but even they couldn't put it into
sakhr
5/27/17 7:13pm
Little will change until recruiting becomes 'Top 30' (consistently).
MichCoug
5/27/17 7:38pm
One quibble. Quantity of NFL players proves Utah had better talent.
ALUF 1990
5/27/17 8:09pm
Or it orives the talent was vetter coached... BYU has.been th3 favorite
CarolinaCoug
5/27/17 8:40pm
what do you think a big spread is?
formerly utesplease
5/28/17 1:07am
Two points
jrj84105
5/27/17 8:40pm
That is only complaint agains BM. Lack of preparation and robotic approach.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:18pm
Utah's "surge" ahead is exaggerated
Gustav
5/27/17 9:32pm
It's been coaching. BM was out prepped by whit.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:38pm
it's been our schedule.... you try out-recruiting the Yewts when their schedule was obviously better.
HarlemCoug
5/27/17 9:48pm
Look at 2005 game. BYU was FAR better but lost in OT. Easily out prepared.
SoValleyCOUG
5/27/17 9:59pm
Utah's Schedule was better than ours between 2005 and 2010? They were both in the MWC. If anything we had bigger games
sakhr
5/27/17 10:04pm
The surge is very very real, but not spectacular. From 2000-2010, Utah averaged
ALUF 1990
5/28/17 9:29am
Proof is in the pudding
Gustav
5/28/17 11:40am
This^^. The entire century, most games have been down to the last min, even the
SoValleyCOUG
5/28/17 12:34pm
If you truly believe this, than KW has underperformed over the past 6 years.
TheLoneCougar
5/28/17 4:17pm
KW has underperformed. The OCs, QBs, and offense in general have been terrible.
jrj84105
5/28/17 6:10pm
3 things. Utahs bad OC, Lots of Utah turnovers, BYU wants it more
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 5:28am
BYU has four future draftees on the entire team? Give me a break.
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 8:58am
How many draft picks has BYU had in the last 6 years combined???
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 9:37am
That's irrelevant when we're talking about the future under a completely new
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 10:08am
Utah has been far luckier than BYU
Gustav
5/29/17 9:12am
Luck? The Utes put the ball on the ground approx 15-20 times last game. Luck
ALUF 1990
5/29/17 9:41am
You also might be ignoring the fact that BYU seems to play its worst games
Harrison0Yfan
5/29/17 10:16am
Utah has been very lucky in a lot of their games against BYU
Gustav
5/29/17 7:59pm
BYU was favored in many of these games and the U won outright.
Gene Frenkle
5/27/17 10:06pm
While Bronco does deserve some blame for the current streak
Seasider
5/27/17 10:14pm
I agree, we were outcoached and Utah players were more mentally ready.
oldrugger
5/27/17 10:32pm
BM out coached?? Ya don't say!
zerome4sooners
5/28/17 8:27am
Now look up how many players were drafted from Utah in 2009. It was like 6.
BYU81
5/28/17 8:53am
Players will always blame it on the coaches.
Sooner Cougar
5/28/17 9:56am
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