those types of posts). The truth, proven out by whatever metric you want to use (talking about actual facts here, not wishful thinking), is that we have a mid-tier P5-like program. And that's right were our reputation is. A good, but not great, program with a storied history, and a program that has not risen to those same heights in recent years. A program with P5-like strengths, but without a P5 conference home. There's a reason why ESPN signed us to our independent TV deal, there's a reason why they're so involved in our scheduling, and there's a reason why they put us in these big-money national TV games each year (WVU last year, LSU this year, etc.). That doesn't make us elite, but it does signal more strength reputation-wise than you claim.