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Oct 12, 2017
4:55:18pm

displacedute All-American

P5 access to what?

The B12 has a contract with the Cotton Bowl through the end of the Playoff contract (through 2025). So when the B12 falls apart (also in 2025) their bowl contracts are also probably all expired or expiring. If you think the Cotton Bowl is signing back up for Kansas, IA State and BYU, well... I find that unlikely.

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displacedute

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To be clear... Tom Holmoe wants BYU in a P5 conference. That is the goal. It is achievable. He's working

HarlemCoug Playmaker

10/12/17 12:32pm

Any kind of guarantee that the program will actually be funded to compete at a P5 level if/when we get there?

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:33pm

Probably not to your satisfaction, but yes they would fund the program

basman

10/12/17 12:36pm

I can't guarantee it. But there's a lot of history of "doing things the BYU way" and going the cheap route.

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:38pm

Meaning they don't take on an obscene amount of debt? If that's what you're

basman

10/12/17 12:40pm

No, just talking about paying coaches market level salaries. Investing in equipment, technology, meeting rooms, locker

foofcoug

10/12/17 12:43pm

I'll bet the tennis team would be able to pay their coaches pretty well

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:45pm

The athletic department will be allowed to spend whatever revenue it makes

StantonMac

10/12/17 3:31pm

I guess we'll see with the next round of re-alignment. The Big XII didn't extend

10/12/17 12:38pm

This seems most likely to me. We end up in a somewhat watered down B12 but have P5 status/access. Would be great...

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 12:44pm

It would be better than the "BCS" Big East conference those last few years.

10/12/17 12:45pm

That would be great. That is our best bet.

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:46pm

If TX and OU leave, the Big 12 will be curb-stomped

Everyman

10/12/17 12:56pm

The B12 team who get demoted will sue. Anti-trust issues. Right? I can't imagine a demotion without seriously

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 1:03pm

yes that is too much expose and asks for Federal intervention

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 1:08pm

Nothing happened when the Big East was demoted or at least nothing significant

rmreitz

10/12/17 2:20pm

The teams left were not the original Blue bloods

BYUSwoop

10/12/17 9:41pm

The BE never sued. Neither will the Big 12,

Everyman

10/12/17 3:59pm

P5 access to what?

displacedute

10/12/17 4:55pm

Most of that depends upon what the Big does. If they expand the SEC will follow

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 12:45pm

Doesn't the PAC 12 grant of rights expire about the same time as the Big 12's?

boscatar

10/12/17 12:47pm

Joining a G5 means admitting that P5 will never happen. How long will it take

DoseOfReality

10/12/17 12:38pm

Yes, P5 is an option. Some of us argue that G5 puts us in the best position to

TheLoneCougar

10/12/17 12:41pm

You're referring to our 2017 win loss record right? Because otherwise the numbers in Independence

MaxxPower

10/12/17 5:36pm

I know this is directed primarily at me. Of course Tom wants BYU in a P5.

Backcountry

10/12/17 12:44pm

Well Tom...let's be honest. The ONLY thing that P5 conferences are interested in

Lifi

10/12/17 12:47pm

it's better than most - our revenues for the Utah game this year were the highest revenues ever for a

HarlemCoug

10/12/17 12:52pm

Signed: B1G’s addition of Rutgers and Maryland...

BamaCoug

10/12/17 9:01pm

The definition of "achievable" is debatable. The conference we fit best

10/12/17 12:51pm

That ship has sailed

TNT

10/12/17 1:16pm

not necessarily...there is a lot in play...

Nat Gas Man

10/12/17 1:21pm

Nope. 2011 was BYU's shot

TNT

10/12/17 1:21pm

Next shot is 2024. Things then will be interesting. Not sure get the invite, but I expect changes then.

10/12/17 1:29pm

They'd have to change the wording in the HC for us to even have a shot imo. The

10/12/17 1:37pm

Gives 7 years to make revisions.

10/12/17 1:49pm

True.

Turbine

10/12/17 1:34pm

I wish I could fly like superman or look like Brad Pit..

Coug

10/12/17 1:20pm

Unfortunately, TH and the BYU BOT don't get a vote until there's an invite.

TrueBlue67

10/12/17 1:33pm

It was the BE/AAC that referred to our "piece of work" lawyers, not the B12

boscatar

10/12/17 2:17pm

Is he really tirelessly working on it? Doesn't he have a full job already...

Hill4Heisman

10/12/17 2:25pm

His job is harder than any other AD. His responsibilities include filling out a

Backcountry

10/12/17 2:47pm

Don't try to run before you can walk

FootFAN

10/12/17 2:30pm

If we were P5, we would hire successful coaches from the G5 ranks...

boscatar

10/12/17 4:08pm

How is suggesting G5>Indy sabotaging efforts to get into a P5?

10/12/17 2:45pm

Don't you know? Indy is the only way. A G5 team has never received a P5 invite.

JarJarBeeps

10/12/17 5:00pm

OK, but that statement from Holmoe would be like single me saying

fredgarvin

10/12/17 3:00pm

Whatever

shakarocks

10/12/17 3:03pm

Everyone wants that.

10/12/17 3:04pm

Don't see BYU moving the needle with the football W/L record over the last 7

palangi

10/12/17 3:32pm

Not undermining... just not thinking big enough.

(Private)

10/12/17 5:32pm

He's been working on it for 6 years. He's not capable. In the meantime, Indy..

10/12/17 7:03pm

Give it up. It’s not going to happen.

mm73

10/12/17 7:56pm

Talk is cheap.

Turd Furguson

10/12/17 8:10pm

A P5 conference has to invite BYU. That's not achievable.

Polecat

10/12/17 8:21pm

Totally agree. Sure, Tom wants the Y in a P5 conference, and he's worked very hard for it,

Y-Phile

10/13/17 1:11am

Then we should just shut down the program. There isn't enough money in even an

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:13pm

Attendence would be fine.

shakarocks

10/13/17 2:29pm

not at the current prices

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:34pm

Feel free to contribute LiveCoug

shakarocks

10/13/17 2:51pm

Just how much are we riding in the black right now?

Coug

10/13/17 2:42pm

my guess with the addition costs of FCOA it is about $4M...but with the BB field

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 2:46pm

It's just time to start being very honest with ourselves...

Coug

10/13/17 3:20pm

It all depends on the sales pitch...

TrueBlue67

10/13/17 4:14pm

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