And.... again you make no point. I understand we are losing to P5 the point is

Nov 25, 2017
2:37:08pm

kotacoug All-American

I'm glad we have the schedule, the next step is to get players and coaches that can compete on that level, the last thing we need to to step back down because fans can't handle it.

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Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my account

Turbine

11/24/17 6:05pm

Because you don't like us?

Zaphod

11/24/17 6:09pm

Our coaches will work

Zaphod

11/24/17 6:12pm

I may actually miss you Zaphod. Now I'm killing account before i respond to

Turbine

11/24/17 6:23pm

100% agree with everything you said... Spot on

Coug

11/24/17 6:10pm

^^ How you know you are in trouble.

kccougar

11/25/17 11:02am

RE: Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my account

Fetchin Fetcher

11/24/17 6:14pm

Nobody. Cares. Who. The. MWC. Champ. Is.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/24/17 6:15pm

Period.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/24/17 6:15pm

More people will care about the MWC champ than the lower eight teams in the PAC 12.

Brisco

11/24/17 6:30pm

This isn't even close to true.

kotacoug

11/24/17 6:33pm

Okay, do you know who finished 5th or 6th in the PAC last year? Nope. Why? Because nobody cares.

Brisco

11/24/17 7:32pm

Haha you're in lala land, more people care about lower level P5

kotacoug

11/24/17 7:34pm

Nor do I know who is in the running for mwc champ.

Little Britches

11/24/17 8:17pm

Most likely Boise State. That would be my guess

AF Cougar

11/24/17 9:13pm

They didn’t even make the CCG

JamRock

11/25/17 10:33am

Wrong...we’re undefeated in conference play

BSUconvert

11/25/17 10:55am

I thought he meant last year

JamRock

11/25/17 5:40pm

Nope

Adrielle

11/25/17 12:29pm

PERIOD! Tell me about all this national respect BYU has. How BYU and Indy are

blackshirts

11/25/17 12:00am

There's a search function. Go ahead and show me all the times I hinted that Indy was = P5.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 12:32am

Exactly... and slinking back to a non P5 conference would be devastating

kotacoug

11/24/17 6:23pm

Um no, independence is not "higher" than G5

coldcoug

11/24/17 8:58pm

It's embarrassing to want to drop down to a G5 so you can feel good about

kotacoug

11/24/17 10:14pm

We wouldn't be "dropping down" to G5. We ARE G5.

Metallicat

11/24/17 11:20pm

Exactly these arrogant and blind Indy lovers think BYU Is ND.

blackshirts

11/24/17 11:40pm

Hate to burst your bubble

coldcoug

11/25/17 9:31am

We are playing more P5 teams. Do some research.

kotacoug

11/25/17 12:07pm

1-13 against winning P5 teams.

blackshirts

11/25/17 1:10pm

And.... again you make no point. I understand we are losing to P5 the point is

kotacoug

11/25/17 2:37pm

And I’ll take that EVERY time over 13-0 against high school teams

Extra Biscuits

11/25/17 3:02pm

Exactly.... it's the only way we can improve and get to the next level.

kotacoug

11/25/17 3:07pm

You mean those HS teams smashing your...

blackshirts

11/25/17 5:15pm

We need BYU-Idaho to get a football team for fans who enjoy being on top of a

Extra Biscuits

11/25/17 10:38pm

Wow 1 more p5 game than a mwc team

coldcoug

11/26/17 10:09am

This🖒

kahuna

11/24/17 11:40pm

Image in your mind. Not nationally. Oh, and recruiting is far from P5 level.

blackshirts

11/25/17 12:03am

nobody is calling for a return to MWC

Cougarealist

11/24/17 6:52pm

What's the difference? Nothing. Nothing is the answer.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/24/17 7:01pm

oh boy, you are so very wrong

Cougarealist

11/24/17 7:07pm

Sure. I'll ask around at work Monday and see if anybody can name some AAC teams...

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 12:01am

I've actually agreed with this before and argued this point and to a certain

ColonelMustard

11/24/17 7:47pm

Nobody. Cares. About. Byu...except any school who is in a conference byu wants

idcougarfan

11/24/17 7:56pm

Even fewer care what BYU does

AxelDC

11/24/17 8:24pm

BYU has been irrelevant in football and men's basketball since the move to Indy

CougarinOZ

11/24/17 8:44pm

WCC champ is regularly sweet 16 and last year played for Natty. That’s relevant

Coogar2

11/24/17 9:37pm

BYU has never won the WCC. I said WE are irrelevant.

CougarinOZ

11/25/17 7:41am

Yes GU is relevant. BYU is not or the WCC overall.

blackshirts

11/25/17 8:02am

BYU is usually the 3rd place team

AxelDC

11/25/17 6:22pm

Nobody cares about indy PERIOD! What you think BYU is going 12-0 and the final

blackshirts

11/24/17 9:22pm

In a setting where BYU could easily go 12-0 In the mwc, you're easily wrong.

ToasterChive

11/24/17 10:15pm

Yeah. How many times did we go undefeated in the MWC?

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/24/17 11:55pm

Seems like we are playing with better players these days.

ToasterChive

11/25/17 7:50am

Which Cougars are you watching, BYU or Wash St? This talent is terrible.

blackshirts

11/25/17 11:26am

I think we could very well follow the BSU model.

ToasterChive

11/25/17 4:48pm

So who is it that cares about Independence outside of BYU?

Coug

11/24/17 10:49pm

Why is that relevant to the discussion?

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/24/17 11:54pm

It's relevant because we don't survive as an independent..m

Coug

11/25/17 1:02am

True! This Indy failure has also given teams like UCF and USF the upper hand

blackshirts

11/25/17 7:33am

If we go G5, we have given up. Might as well go div 2 and join USD's football league.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 8:15am

That is a stupid response. Given up lol!.. given up what our 115th ranking.

blackshirts

11/25/17 8:39am

I don't live in Utah and never interact with Utah fans.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 1:18pm

But you do think that Indy is = to P5 status or equivalent?

Coug

11/25/17 3:04pm

Of course not. But for BYU, P5 > Indy > G5

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 5:47pm

Given up what?

Coug

11/25/17 11:29am

The fact is, G5 = Div 2.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 1:20pm

You will not take those blue goggles off. INDY is 3 of the worst

blackshirts

11/25/17 1:30pm

G5 has more access to a NYD bowl than BYU...

Coug

11/25/17 2:38pm

Unless it is a playoff spot, which bowl you are in means crap.

Ragnar Danneskjold

11/25/17 5:49pm

The crystal ball says you're in for a miserable CF lifetime. BYU is NEVER NEVER

blackshirts

11/25/17 6:13pm

If UCF can't get within a playoff spot...

Coug

11/26/17 8:39am

Nobody.Cares.About.A.One-Loss.BYU.Team.

Metallicat

11/25/17 11:07am

I am 100% certain that a lot of people would care about a one-loss BYU team.

crazY

11/25/17 11:17am

But our team would still be watching football on TV after New Year's Eve

Metallicat

11/25/17 11:23am

At least 80% of bowl teams will be watching football after New year's.

crazY

11/25/17 12:26pm

But not the highest ranked G5 team. Even with 1-2 losses.

Metallicat

11/25/17 12:54pm

If BYU was 11-1 this season you wouldn’t be ripping on indy.

bluebrotha

11/24/17 6:21pm

But Indy is why we are not 11-1. Why is this hard to figure out? You think we

Cougarfan777

11/24/17 6:38pm

What makes you think that will happen in a G5 conference? We never made a NY6 game when we were in the MWC. How does

monkeycowboy

11/24/17 6:44pm

We could have been 13-0 last season with Sr Taysom and Jamaal if not for coaches

Reasonable1

11/24/17 7:20pm

Right, as soon as we go back to the MWC we'll be 11-1 every year. Wha??

ArchbishopMitty

11/24/17 8:38pm

3-10, ranked 115th is so much better!

blackshirts

11/25/17 10:07am

they'll NEVER be 11-1 or undefeated as Indy

Cougarealist

11/24/17 6:53pm

Humm, when Indy started BYU was the easy leader for non-P5 teams in respect and

blackshirts

11/25/17 7:59am

Something's gotta give. If we're going to stick with Indy because it apparently

Metallicat

11/25/17 11:19am

How does Independence make it "unnecessarily hard on the coaches to recruit?"

fan_byu

11/24/17 6:23pm

Exactly. It's a load of crap. Independence is a selling point but if you

kotacoug

11/24/17 6:29pm

It's not a selling point

shakarocks

11/24/17 9:27pm

A selling point, Bah bah!! Hey 4 star recruits come to BYU, your season is

blackshirts

11/24/17 9:43pm

Baaahaa hey four star recruit.... hey look we're in a G5 conference. Yeh!

kotacoug

11/24/17 10:09pm

UCF, Houston,USF, Navy, BSU, Memphis, Toledo, CSU, Florida Atlantic...

blackshirts

11/25/17 12:19am

RE: Exactly. It's a load of crap. Independence is a selling point but if you

municoug

11/24/17 11:12pm

The athletic kids that want a chance at a conference championship or a national

FightingCoug12

11/24/17 6:37pm

There are athletic kids who aren't widely coveted by P5's

shakarocks

11/24/17 9:28pm

#TRUTH boom

kahuna

11/24/17 11:35pm

Don’t deactivate man.

Gerald-DeGroot

11/24/17 6:24pm

Since Indy it's been a slow roll to the bottom of relevancy. Amazing that we

Cougarfan777

11/24/17 6:47pm

Lol a member of our basketball conference made the Title game last year. A team we beat BTW. We just need to not lose to

monkeycowboy

11/24/17 6:49pm

Dang. TNT wants to watch Star Trek now

TNT

11/24/17 6:54pm

So, going back to the MWC will improve recruiting?

VegasCoug83

11/24/17 6:54pm

Recruits don't like 3-9 teams to start. BYU isnt ND, they can't compete at the

blackshirts

11/24/17 8:51pm

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, BRONCO HAS NEVER ADVOCATED FOR G5!!!!!

Bostonblue

11/24/17 7:02pm

Thank you, I’m listening.

Beetdiggercoug

11/24/17 7:13pm

G5 is an upgrade at this point. That is if BYU can win at the G5 level.

blackshirts

11/24/17 8:20pm

An upgrade in what way? Schedule? Not really. $? Not even close.

BYUHgrad

11/24/17 8:47pm

Exactly... lost of these G5 programs only play one P5 game a year

kotacoug

11/24/17 10:12pm

Your issue seems to be losing. Independence isn't the cause of that, in fact

kotacoug

11/24/17 10:11pm

And less money for assistant coaches...which is a bigger issue

BYUHgrad

11/24/17 11:48pm

This is understandable.

El Careeb

11/24/17 7:15pm

Wish you would stay because I agree with you.

cowhide

11/24/17 7:41pm

I totally disagree with him on this issue but wish he would stay he's a good po

kahuna

11/24/17 11:38pm

I don’t think MWC or AAC are options anymore.

Gigo

11/24/17 8:17pm

If BYU were to express interest in returning to the MWC

BSUconvert

11/25/17 11:13am

There is ZERO interest in returning to the MWC

Stalwart Man

11/25/17 12:03pm

DILLY DILLY!!! AMEN!!!!

blackshirts

11/24/17 8:17pm

Nobody cares

InkedCougar84

11/24/17 8:25pm

Lololol!

LaVellIfIKnow

11/24/17 8:43pm

I can’t figure out Grand goodbyes.

Florwood

11/24/17 9:08pm

You forgot to use "toxic cesspool" and "mods turn a blind eye" in your goodbye

STLcoug

11/24/17 9:13pm

I've finally come to it. I agree that we should leave indy and go to the AAC.

Nagurski

11/24/17 9:26pm

Who are you gonna kick out? They already have 14.

Gigo

11/24/17 10:05pm

I am sure you can find one other team to make 16

Nagurski

11/24/17 11:20pm

If BYU went undefeated the Cougs could play another undefeated team like Wisky.

Coogar2

11/24/17 9:35pm

Wish I could agree but every player I've spoken with says no to MWC and G5

whiteninja

11/24/17 10:14pm

How many of the Bball players said no to the MWC or AAC and yes to WCC? Crickets

Cougarfan777

11/24/17 11:23pm

Frankly basket ball is not relevant football

kahuna

11/24/17 11:47pm

I find I am much happier on CB if I turn off the Football category - and sometime Basketball - esp after losses

Zenoch

11/24/17 10:36pm

Works with the team? As in a ball boy right?

Turnpike Lane

11/24/17 11:12pm

You had me till you blamed independence. Indy is not the reason you're unhappy.

Y2k

11/24/17 11:31pm

Some times I agree with you some times I don't

kahuna

11/24/17 11:33pm

RE: Why BYU as Indi is hurting the program and why I will be deactivating my

Abe Froman

11/24/17 11:50pm

This is unbelievable.

Adrielle

11/25/17 5:48am

Yes, all yewts please cancel your accounts.

AZcougLawyer

11/25/17 9:07am

Disappointed you deactivated. Enjoyed your info and posts

cube3_cougar

11/25/17 10:10am

God Speed

Coug98

11/25/17 10:51am

Indy isn't working out; join the AAC while they still want BYU

AxelDC

11/25/17 6:28pm

What facts indicate AAC wants us?

coldcoug

11/26/17 8:19am

Welcome to the Hotel California, you can check out any time

Archaea

11/26/17 8:59am

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