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Oct 9, 2021
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Machiavelli
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This is a reasonable, fair take. I respect that.
And I do agree.
I think some CBers have become obsessive in their hate for Tuiaki and this defense. Today the offense was abysmal and put the defense in a horrible position many times.
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Lol...just have to laugh at CB sometimes...
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:16pm
Our defense does suck.
Blue Print
10/9/21 6:17pm
This. It was a group effort. Their OL was supposed to be a weakness
jrifkin48
10/9/21 6:17pm
Yeah other than the 2 tds off tos, our d was terrible, gave up 12 points.
MrClark
10/9/21 6:53pm
And allowed them to eat the clock.
Blue Print
10/9/21 7:02pm
Our offense fumbled two plays IN A ROW around our own 25. Not the defense’s fault they didn’t have the ball “enough”
mvtoro
10/9/21 10:22pm
Sigh.
Blue Print
10/9/21 10:31pm
Giving up a first down is not remotely close to fumbling on your own 20. And once again, the problem wasn’t a lack of
mvtoro
10/9/21 11:07pm
Go back and reread my original post.
Blue Print
10/10/21 12:32am
“There’s no room for error…” There is an incredibly large amount of room for error between “no error” and 6 turnovers.
mvtoro
10/10/21 12:57am
When we don’t start really playing defense until they’re on our 20, what
Blue Print
10/10/21 6:43am
Here’s the difference: when we didn’t make the defense start defending inside our own 25, they gave up 0 TDs and 12
mvtoro
10/10/21 9:09am
Our offense inexplicably chewed clock when we were two scores behind, too.
Zastava
10/9/21 11:06pm
Defense did a good job today until the last drive
RGGeemer
10/9/21 6:17pm
Against an O that I believe
FatherOFive
10/9/21 6:20pm
Until that long pass and incredible catch....
Benfica1
10/9/21 6:52pm
I more was referring to the 2 bad penalties.
RGGeemer
10/9/21 8:19pm
Perhaps a CBer had the most accurate quote during the game "it works but it is frustrating"
TNT
10/9/21 6:18pm
Offense has an off game and the defense plays their regular game. Did nothing
slowhiteguy
10/9/21 6:18pm
I mean...26 points isn't that much given the 4 TOs plus two 4th down failed conv
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:21pm
Because it's trash.
slowhiteguy
10/9/21 6:26pm
It isn't, but Is like a defense that is capable of doing something other than
cougaman
10/9/21 6:27pm
Some of us just don’t like mediocre defense. So sue us.
Bossk82
10/9/21 6:18pm
Defense generated plenty of turnovers in the previous games
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:22pm
I actually liked the D the first 3 games. Since then? Nope.
Bossk82
10/9/21 6:24pm
Few near universal truths with the BYU fanbase generally.
dfudge
10/9/21 6:19pm
Sticky this 😅
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:23pm
Saying the defense was bad ISN’T the same as saying the offense was good.
Bossk82
10/9/21 6:26pm
This ^^^^. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Both sucked today. So BYU lost.
The_Cuss
10/9/21 10:02pm
We gave up double their average in rushing yards 🙄
PING Man
10/9/21 6:20pm
Yeah, people lock on to their emotional biases.
k-ace
10/9/21 6:21pm
How's their rushing game been before today? How was it today? How many TO's
BYUfan92
10/9/21 6:24pm
Good analysis
TNT
10/9/21 6:25pm
How’s their rushing D been before today? We lost the LOS on both sides and
NewMexiCoug
10/9/21 10:22pm
Kanani mentioned the D many times in post game
maxpowers
10/9/21 6:28pm
There’s no doubt the D was not the primary culprit for today’s loss. BUT, that
P-townCoug
10/9/21 6:30pm
This is a reasonable, fair take. I respect that.
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:35pm
But the offense’s mistakes today were uncharacteristic, whereas the defense’s …
Bossk82
10/9/21 6:38pm
Yep, fair. But that doesn't mean you don't blame the offense for the loss
Machiavelli
10/9/21 6:40pm
Oh, I absolutely place huge blame on the offense today. No question.
Bossk82
10/9/21 6:55pm
Let's talk when BYU's D starts producing some 3-and-outs instead of allowing
TrueBlue67
10/9/21 7:37pm
Thanks for the chuckles 😅
Machiavelli
10/9/21 8:29pm
I'm glad you find BYU's D comical.
TrueBlue67
10/9/21 8:34pm
This man has a point. Def easy target, but it was the fumbles and failed 4th
zerome4sooners
10/9/21 8:41pm
But, amazingly, if Tuiaki's D can force JUST ONE 3-and-out with 3 minutes to go,
TrueBlue67
10/9/21 8:44pm
Nope. The offense couldn't score. Maybe the D could have gotten a pick 6.
Benfica1
10/9/21 9:29pm
Actually they did force a 3 and out in the 4th quarter to give us a chance
Machiavelli
10/9/21 9:30pm
Our D scheme still sucks, but your point is valid.
TheLoneCougar
10/9/21 9:10pm
Yep I can agree with that
Machiavelli
10/9/21 11:30pm
This scheme doesn't work well when you are playing from behind.
TheLoneCougar
10/10/21 5:05am
Yea, I get some of the frustrations with the defense but
CougarsFanSince80s
10/9/21 9:51pm
3 fumbles and we lost it all in the trenches. . .
Zoobieman
10/9/21 10:51pm
We didn’t really though:
mvtoro
10/9/21 11:37pm
Dude, we lost the trenches. . . Stats show Allgeier was superior to their RBs
Zoobieman
10/16/21 2:44pm
Today's loss was definitely a team effort
reddead
10/9/21 10:57pm
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10/9/21 11:53pm
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