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Oct 28, 2021
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CarolinaCoug
Intervention Needed
H2 isnt wrong..but its ez 4o coach..hey qb take your time...
Throw to ioen guy in open patch of grass and move down the field.. or het we are going to eun..
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Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:22am
Armstrong faced a lot of drop 8 this year
CougarCanuck76
10/28/21 9:22am
Interesting. Which defenses dropped 8? Would love to look at those games more
Captain Stubing
10/28/21 9:28am
I would like to know this as well.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
10/28/21 9:55am
Me too! I'm impressed you've watched so much VA football
GSwarriorcoug
10/28/21 6:42pm
He did?
Rat
10/28/21 11:14am
You know, I'd be more on board with a lot more frequent blitzing if I thought we had guys who are legitimate
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:24am
sadly, I agree.
Mayor of Cougartown
10/28/21 9:28am
However...
El Puma
10/28/21 10:33am
I would love to see at-the-line adjustments. Every down.
Pangare
10/28/21 12:53pm
That is too much mental pressure on coach T.
Blue for Life
10/28/21 1:58pm
Yes! This 1000x!
RUNBYU1
10/28/21 3:44pm
There are 14 sacks on this team split among 10 different players. Batty has 1 sack.
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:31am
You have to try and get sacks to get them.
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:48am
Hard for DL to get sacks being double-teamed every play because we only send 3
Horacio Caine
10/28/21 9:53am
I feel like this is the real reason that we finally beat Utah this year.
Pangare
10/28/21 12:57pm
Go back and watch that game. Watch 5he safety blitzes from chaz
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:51pm
Hard to know when all you ever rush is 3. Cause at that point 2 of your 3 rushers are double teamed. Sounds like a
unctoothman
10/28/21 4:31pm
Good point - and more importantly, you'd see QB hurries increase as well.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:42pm
Aren’t most players double-teamed on nearly all plays?
BYU'01
10/28/21 5:34pm
No
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:51pm
If they mostly rush three are remaining lineman & backs just taking plays off?
BYU'01
10/28/21 8:58pm
That’s fair. The OP was intended to be more of a debate of the merits of
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:35am
I think he is overvaluing any mental pressure exerted
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:48am
I think he is just plain scared of being burned over the top.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:46pm
Development is an issue because Tuiaki doesn't know how to develop that style
mudpupper
10/28/21 10:06am
This is where losing Pili really hurt the team. He was the one guy that could
hoydis
10/28/21 11:20am
Confirmation Bias?
here's to hoping
10/28/21 11:36am
Have we ever blitzed a CB under Sitake? Maybe we have but I can't think of any.
ldssdl
10/28/21 12:38pm
Either BYU lacks the athletes or the skills.
wilsdad
10/28/21 11:59am
Ever seen a corner blorz from shorr side of field? Safety blitz
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:48pm
How often do we drop 8 guys into coverage?
molodyets
10/28/21 9:24am
I don't know where this stat is tracked, but ESPN said during one of the early season games this year
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:27am
We have blitzed more than fans believe, but we haven't been very effective in
Archaea
10/28/21 9:31am
And lately have gotten burned badly on blitzes
Kajdin
10/28/21 9:33am
correct.
Archaea
10/28/21 9:37am
That’s because they don’t disguise them at all
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:49am
This..and send the wrong person and they are poorly executed
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:52pm
Because BYU telegraphs the blitz- they seem to always know when it’s coming
ausgezeichnet
10/28/21 9:38am
Disguising blitzes is part of what made Bronco such a great DC.
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:41am
Or the players do. It's the conduct of the players on the field that telegraphs
Archaea
10/28/21 9:47am
That’s coaching. They coach them how to line up and disguise
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:50am
How many of those are run blitzes meant to fill gaps vs. blitzes to rush the
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:39am
FYI - 4 man rush is not a blitz.
mudpupper
10/28/21 10:07am
It is for BYU.
Blue for Life
10/28/21 2:01pm
I think it wise to define what a blitz is when having this discussion.
StalwartBraveTrue
10/28/21 9:34am
I don't know how they defined it — I'm just relating what they said
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:35am
It’s bringing 5+
TempeCoug
10/28/21 12:49pm
Thats not a blitz. It can be .
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:54pm
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Traveller 1968
10/28/21 12:18pm
Washington St was the first time it was done consistently.
rad dawg
10/28/21 9:32am
You underestimate how much three man rush since the ASU game
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:51am
Go watch the Utah game again.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:47pm
Start of season like 40% by end of season 95%
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:52pm
Yup. He has a point, he also mentioned that part of the mental pressure comes
Powerbait DPM
10/28/21 9:27am
To me a preponderance of 8 with 20 percent disguised blitzes should
Archaea
10/28/21 9:38am
Not if a blitz consists of rushing three dl and one lb
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:53am
I listen to Dylan Collie on 1280 each week. He is very good at analyzing
BYU71
10/28/21 9:40am
The guy on the ACC Network last week said that Armstrong is very good against zone coverage
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:41am
It will be. If it were up to me I would apply pressure not drop 8. However,
BYU71
10/28/21 9:45am
For how long have you been an analyst?
Archaea
10/28/21 9:46am
Football 62 years. Every other subject since birth.
BYU71
10/28/21 9:51am
Collie isn’t a defensive coach
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:55am
And you are?😁
BYU71
10/28/21 10:21am
Tuiaki does a lot of man coverage mixed in.
rad dawg
10/28/21 9:49am
This is correct: just b/c we drop 8, it's no always Zone Coverage
moknowssports
10/28/21 10:37am
Pretty much every college team pattern matches now - it's a staple of modern defense.
molodyets
10/28/21 10:47am
I specifically said dropping 8 works well against certain matchups and
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:43am
My fault and I am sorry. Just read Tuiaki and drop 8, not your whole post.
BYU71
10/28/21 9:49am
Habing 8 in coverage is not the same thong as tuiakis cover grass 8
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 9:06pm
I was listening to the Manning bros during their broadcast and they were both
Blueto
10/28/21 9:42am
Yeah it was really fun listening to them breaking down the MNF game in real time
RUNBYU1
10/28/21 3:47pm
Yeah qbs seem to be u see a lot of mental pressure as they setup tents back ther
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:46am
The mental pressure of sitting back and waiting for someone to get open? Or taking the 8 yard gain on the check down?
kimdaddy35
10/28/21 9:48am
it works against a lot of college quarterbacks BYU faces. It ain't gonna work on
Mayor of Cougartown
10/28/21 9:50am
Who has it worked against?
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:59am
Well the PAC-12 leader in touchdown passes failed to get one against BYU
jre85
10/28/21 10:27am
^^this
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:58am
Wazzu we dropped 8 more than any other game all year. Expect the same v. UVa. It is smart defense for their scheme.
Turnpike Lane
10/28/21 9:53am
It doesn’t work until the red zone where it occasionally works
BYU '80
10/28/21 10:01am
I think that is the goal. Slow them down, then try to stop then once they get to the 25 and have a shorter field.
Turnpike Lane
10/28/21 10:04am
Completely disagree and I hope I'm wrong.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:56pm
It's true. We also disguise our coverages pretty well. We don't disguise blitzes
HONOMO
10/28/21 10:58am
I'd say that is BECAUSE of the secondary players, not because of the defensive scheme.
antiyewt
10/28/21 9:00pm
I would say that works better if you blitz early and get them thinking they have
Cougarite
10/28/21 11:05am
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Fdnman
10/28/21 11:31am
I'm gonna be honest, watching a game on TV you can't see any coverages. And most people at the games can't tell the
molodyets
10/28/21 11:35am
If you know defenses most of the time just watching where a one defender drops
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:57pm
RE: My frustration is not so much about dropping 8..it is how those 8 defend.
rad dawg
10/28/21 11:46am
His scheme would work if we a front 4 that could get home every once in awhile
CancunCoug
10/28/21 11:58am
Not when it's a base defense..
Coug
10/28/21 12:15pm
Mental pressure? Come on dude. Maybe for some, but we have been picked apart way
Blue for Life
10/28/21 1:57pm
RE: Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in
cougarapologist
10/28/21 2:37pm
Not much mental pressure when scouting rpt says there will be a giant hole 8-12yds downfield between hashes and it's
BlooGeek
10/28/21 2:38pm
It definitely puts mental pressure on CBers!
Roko's Basilisk
10/28/21 3:24pm
It’s called RPO. Just run the ball. No pressure at all.
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:51pm
H2 isnt wrong..but its ez 4o coach..hey qb take your time...
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 7:42pm
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