Aren’t most players double-teamed on nearly all plays?

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Oct 28, 2021
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Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in

ldssdl

10/28/21 9:22am

Armstrong faced a lot of drop 8 this year

CougarCanuck76

10/28/21 9:22am

Interesting. Which defenses dropped 8? Would love to look at those games more

Captain Stubing

10/28/21 9:28am

I would like to know this as well.

Tuskaloosa Cougar

10/28/21 9:55am

Me too! I'm impressed you've watched so much VA football

GSwarriorcoug

10/28/21 6:42pm

He did?

Rat

10/28/21 11:14am

You know, I'd be more on board with a lot more frequent blitzing if I thought we had guys who are legitimate

Indy Coug

10/28/21 9:24am

sadly, I agree.

Mayor of Cougartown

10/28/21 9:28am

However...

El Puma

10/28/21 10:33am

I would love to see at-the-line adjustments. Every down.

Pangare

10/28/21 12:53pm

That is too much mental pressure on coach T.

Blue for Life

10/28/21 1:58pm

Yes! This 1000x!

RUNBYU1

10/28/21 3:44pm

There are 14 sacks on this team split among 10 different players. Batty has 1 sack.

Indy Coug

10/28/21 9:31am

You have to try and get sacks to get them.

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:48am

Hard for DL to get sacks being double-teamed every play because we only send 3

Horacio Caine

10/28/21 9:53am

I feel like this is the real reason that we finally beat Utah this year.

Pangare

10/28/21 12:57pm

Go back and watch that game. Watch 5he safety blitzes from chaz

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 8:51pm

Hard to know when all you ever rush is 3. Cause at that point 2 of your 3 rushers are double teamed. Sounds like a

unctoothman

10/28/21 4:31pm

Good point - and more importantly, you'd see QB hurries increase as well.

antiyewt

10/28/21 8:42pm

Aren’t most players double-teamed on nearly all plays?

BYU'01

10/28/21 5:34pm

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 8:51pm

If they mostly rush three are remaining lineman & backs just taking plays off?

BYU'01

10/28/21 8:58pm

That’s fair. The OP was intended to be more of a debate of the merits of

ldssdl

10/28/21 9:35am

I think he is overvaluing any mental pressure exerted

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:48am

I think he is just plain scared of being burned over the top.

antiyewt

10/28/21 8:46pm

Development is an issue because Tuiaki doesn't know how to develop that style

mudpupper

10/28/21 10:06am

This is where losing Pili really hurt the team. He was the one guy that could

hoydis

10/28/21 11:20am

Confirmation Bias?

here's to hoping

10/28/21 11:36am

Have we ever blitzed a CB under Sitake? Maybe we have but I can't think of any.

ldssdl

10/28/21 12:38pm

Either BYU lacks the athletes or the skills.

wilsdad

10/28/21 11:59am

Ever seen a corner blorz from shorr side of field? Safety blitz

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 8:48pm

How often do we drop 8 guys into coverage?

molodyets

10/28/21 9:24am

I don't know where this stat is tracked, but ESPN said during one of the early season games this year

Indy Coug

10/28/21 9:27am

We have blitzed more than fans believe, but we haven't been very effective in

Archaea

10/28/21 9:31am

And lately have gotten burned badly on blitzes

Kajdin

10/28/21 9:33am

correct.

Archaea

10/28/21 9:37am

That’s because they don’t disguise them at all

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:49am

This..and send the wrong person and they are poorly executed

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 8:52pm

Because BYU telegraphs the blitz- they seem to always know when it’s coming

ausgezeichnet

10/28/21 9:38am

Disguising blitzes is part of what made Bronco such a great DC.

ldssdl

10/28/21 9:41am

Or the players do. It's the conduct of the players on the field that telegraphs

Archaea

10/28/21 9:47am

That’s coaching. They coach them how to line up and disguise

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:50am

How many of those are run blitzes meant to fill gaps vs. blitzes to rush the

ldssdl

10/28/21 9:39am

FYI - 4 man rush is not a blitz.

mudpupper

10/28/21 10:07am

It is for BYU.

Blue for Life

10/28/21 2:01pm

I think it wise to define what a blitz is when having this discussion.

StalwartBraveTrue

10/28/21 9:34am

I don't know how they defined it — I'm just relating what they said

Indy Coug

10/28/21 9:35am

It’s bringing 5+

TempeCoug

10/28/21 12:49pm

Thats not a blitz. It can be .

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 8:54pm

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Traveller 1968

10/28/21 12:18pm

Washington St was the first time it was done consistently.

rad dawg

10/28/21 9:32am

You underestimate how much three man rush since the ASU game

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:51am

Go watch the Utah game again.

antiyewt

10/28/21 8:47pm

Start of season like 40% by end of season 95%

Bobmarleyjr

10/28/21 3:52pm

Yup. He has a point, he also mentioned that part of the mental pressure comes

Powerbait DPM

10/28/21 9:27am

To me a preponderance of 8 with 20 percent disguised blitzes should

Archaea

10/28/21 9:38am

Not if a blitz consists of rushing three dl and one lb

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:53am

I listen to Dylan Collie on 1280 each week. He is very good at analyzing

BYU71

10/28/21 9:40am

The guy on the ACC Network last week said that Armstrong is very good against zone coverage

Indy Coug

10/28/21 9:41am

It will be. If it were up to me I would apply pressure not drop 8. However,

BYU71

10/28/21 9:45am

For how long have you been an analyst?

Archaea

10/28/21 9:46am

Football 62 years. Every other subject since birth.

BYU71

10/28/21 9:51am

Collie isn’t a defensive coach

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:55am

And you are?😁

BYU71

10/28/21 10:21am

Tuiaki does a lot of man coverage mixed in.

rad dawg

10/28/21 9:49am

This is correct: just b/c we drop 8, it's no always Zone Coverage

moknowssports

10/28/21 10:37am

Pretty much every college team pattern matches now - it's a staple of modern defense.

molodyets

10/28/21 10:47am

I specifically said dropping 8 works well against certain matchups and

ldssdl

10/28/21 9:43am

My fault and I am sorry. Just read Tuiaki and drop 8, not your whole post.

BYU71

10/28/21 9:49am

Habing 8 in coverage is not the same thong as tuiakis cover grass 8

CarolinaCoug

10/28/21 9:06pm

I was listening to the Manning bros during their broadcast and they were both

Blueto

10/28/21 9:42am

Yeah it was really fun listening to them breaking down the MNF game in real time

RUNBYU1

10/28/21 3:47pm

Yeah qbs seem to be u see a lot of mental pressure as they setup tents back ther

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:46am

The mental pressure of sitting back and waiting for someone to get open? Or taking the 8 yard gain on the check down?

kimdaddy35

10/28/21 9:48am

it works against a lot of college quarterbacks BYU faces. It ain't gonna work on

Mayor of Cougartown

10/28/21 9:50am

Who has it worked against?

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:59am

Well the PAC-12 leader in touchdown passes failed to get one against BYU

jre85

10/28/21 10:27am

^^this

BYU '80

10/28/21 9:58am

Wazzu we dropped 8 more than any other game all year. Expect the same v. UVa. It is smart defense for their scheme.

Turnpike Lane

10/28/21 9:53am

It doesn’t work until the red zone where it occasionally works

BYU '80

10/28/21 10:01am

I think that is the goal. Slow them down, then try to stop then once they get to the 25 and have a shorter field.

Turnpike Lane

10/28/21 10:04am

Completely disagree and I hope I'm wrong.

antiyewt

10/28/21 8:56pm

It's true. We also disguise our coverages pretty well. We don't disguise blitzes

HONOMO

10/28/21 10:58am

I'd say that is BECAUSE of the secondary players, not because of the defensive scheme.

antiyewt

10/28/21 9:00pm

I would say that works better if you blitz early and get them thinking they have

Cougarite

10/28/21 11:05am

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Fdnman

10/28/21 11:31am

I'm gonna be honest, watching a game on TV you can't see any coverages. And most people at the games can't tell the

molodyets

10/28/21 11:35am

If you know defenses most of the time just watching where a one defender drops

Bobmarleyjr

10/28/21 3:57pm

RE: My frustration is not so much about dropping 8..it is how those 8 defend.

rad dawg

10/28/21 11:46am

His scheme would work if we a front 4 that could get home every once in awhile

CancunCoug

10/28/21 11:58am

Not when it's a base defense..

Coug

10/28/21 12:15pm

Mental pressure? Come on dude. Maybe for some, but we have been picked apart way

Blue for Life

10/28/21 1:57pm

RE: Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in

cougarapologist

10/28/21 2:37pm

Not much mental pressure when scouting rpt says there will be a giant hole 8-12yds downfield between hashes and it's

BlooGeek

10/28/21 2:38pm

It definitely puts mental pressure on CBers!

Roko's Basilisk

10/28/21 3:24pm

It’s called RPO. Just run the ball. No pressure at all.

Bobmarleyjr

10/28/21 3:51pm

H2 isnt wrong..but its ez 4o coach..hey qb take your time...

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