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Oct 28, 2021
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antiyewt
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Good point - and more importantly, you'd see QB hurries increase as well.
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Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:22am
Armstrong faced a lot of drop 8 this year
CougarCanuck76
10/28/21 9:22am
Interesting. Which defenses dropped 8? Would love to look at those games more
Captain Stubing
10/28/21 9:28am
I would like to know this as well.
Tuskaloosa Cougar
10/28/21 9:55am
Me too! I'm impressed you've watched so much VA football
GSwarriorcoug
10/28/21 6:42pm
He did?
Rat
10/28/21 11:14am
You know, I'd be more on board with a lot more frequent blitzing if I thought we had guys who are legitimate
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:24am
sadly, I agree.
Mayor of Cougartown
10/28/21 9:28am
However...
El Puma
10/28/21 10:33am
I would love to see at-the-line adjustments. Every down.
Pangare
10/28/21 12:53pm
That is too much mental pressure on coach T.
Blue for Life
10/28/21 1:58pm
Yes! This 1000x!
RUNBYU1
10/28/21 3:44pm
There are 14 sacks on this team split among 10 different players. Batty has 1 sack.
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:31am
You have to try and get sacks to get them.
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:48am
Hard for DL to get sacks being double-teamed every play because we only send 3
Horacio Caine
10/28/21 9:53am
I feel like this is the real reason that we finally beat Utah this year.
Pangare
10/28/21 12:57pm
Go back and watch that game. Watch 5he safety blitzes from chaz
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:51pm
Hard to know when all you ever rush is 3. Cause at that point 2 of your 3 rushers are double teamed. Sounds like a
unctoothman
10/28/21 4:31pm
Good point - and more importantly, you'd see QB hurries increase as well.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:42pm
Aren’t most players double-teamed on nearly all plays?
BYU'01
10/28/21 5:34pm
No
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:51pm
If they mostly rush three are remaining lineman & backs just taking plays off?
BYU'01
10/28/21 8:58pm
That’s fair. The OP was intended to be more of a debate of the merits of
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:35am
I think he is overvaluing any mental pressure exerted
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:48am
I think he is just plain scared of being burned over the top.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:46pm
Development is an issue because Tuiaki doesn't know how to develop that style
mudpupper
10/28/21 10:06am
This is where losing Pili really hurt the team. He was the one guy that could
hoydis
10/28/21 11:20am
Confirmation Bias?
here's to hoping
10/28/21 11:36am
Have we ever blitzed a CB under Sitake? Maybe we have but I can't think of any.
ldssdl
10/28/21 12:38pm
Either BYU lacks the athletes or the skills.
wilsdad
10/28/21 11:59am
Ever seen a corner blorz from shorr side of field? Safety blitz
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:48pm
How often do we drop 8 guys into coverage?
molodyets
10/28/21 9:24am
I don't know where this stat is tracked, but ESPN said during one of the early season games this year
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:27am
We have blitzed more than fans believe, but we haven't been very effective in
Archaea
10/28/21 9:31am
And lately have gotten burned badly on blitzes
Kajdin
10/28/21 9:33am
correct.
Archaea
10/28/21 9:37am
That’s because they don’t disguise them at all
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:49am
This..and send the wrong person and they are poorly executed
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:52pm
Because BYU telegraphs the blitz- they seem to always know when it’s coming
ausgezeichnet
10/28/21 9:38am
Disguising blitzes is part of what made Bronco such a great DC.
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:41am
Or the players do. It's the conduct of the players on the field that telegraphs
Archaea
10/28/21 9:47am
That’s coaching. They coach them how to line up and disguise
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:50am
How many of those are run blitzes meant to fill gaps vs. blitzes to rush the
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:39am
FYI - 4 man rush is not a blitz.
mudpupper
10/28/21 10:07am
It is for BYU.
Blue for Life
10/28/21 2:01pm
I think it wise to define what a blitz is when having this discussion.
StalwartBraveTrue
10/28/21 9:34am
I don't know how they defined it — I'm just relating what they said
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:35am
It’s bringing 5+
TempeCoug
10/28/21 12:49pm
Thats not a blitz. It can be .
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 8:54pm
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Traveller 1968
10/28/21 12:18pm
Washington St was the first time it was done consistently.
rad dawg
10/28/21 9:32am
You underestimate how much three man rush since the ASU game
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:51am
Go watch the Utah game again.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:47pm
Start of season like 40% by end of season 95%
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:52pm
Yup. He has a point, he also mentioned that part of the mental pressure comes
Powerbait DPM
10/28/21 9:27am
To me a preponderance of 8 with 20 percent disguised blitzes should
Archaea
10/28/21 9:38am
Not if a blitz consists of rushing three dl and one lb
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:53am
I listen to Dylan Collie on 1280 each week. He is very good at analyzing
BYU71
10/28/21 9:40am
The guy on the ACC Network last week said that Armstrong is very good against zone coverage
Indy Coug
10/28/21 9:41am
It will be. If it were up to me I would apply pressure not drop 8. However,
BYU71
10/28/21 9:45am
For how long have you been an analyst?
Archaea
10/28/21 9:46am
Football 62 years. Every other subject since birth.
BYU71
10/28/21 9:51am
Collie isn’t a defensive coach
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:55am
And you are?😁
BYU71
10/28/21 10:21am
Tuiaki does a lot of man coverage mixed in.
rad dawg
10/28/21 9:49am
This is correct: just b/c we drop 8, it's no always Zone Coverage
moknowssports
10/28/21 10:37am
Pretty much every college team pattern matches now - it's a staple of modern defense.
molodyets
10/28/21 10:47am
I specifically said dropping 8 works well against certain matchups and
ldssdl
10/28/21 9:43am
My fault and I am sorry. Just read Tuiaki and drop 8, not your whole post.
BYU71
10/28/21 9:49am
Habing 8 in coverage is not the same thong as tuiakis cover grass 8
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 9:06pm
I was listening to the Manning bros during their broadcast and they were both
Blueto
10/28/21 9:42am
Yeah it was really fun listening to them breaking down the MNF game in real time
RUNBYU1
10/28/21 3:47pm
Yeah qbs seem to be u see a lot of mental pressure as they setup tents back ther
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:46am
The mental pressure of sitting back and waiting for someone to get open? Or taking the 8 yard gain on the check down?
kimdaddy35
10/28/21 9:48am
it works against a lot of college quarterbacks BYU faces. It ain't gonna work on
Mayor of Cougartown
10/28/21 9:50am
Who has it worked against?
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:59am
Well the PAC-12 leader in touchdown passes failed to get one against BYU
jre85
10/28/21 10:27am
^^this
BYU '80
10/28/21 9:58am
Wazzu we dropped 8 more than any other game all year. Expect the same v. UVa. It is smart defense for their scheme.
Turnpike Lane
10/28/21 9:53am
It doesn’t work until the red zone where it occasionally works
BYU '80
10/28/21 10:01am
I think that is the goal. Slow them down, then try to stop then once they get to the 25 and have a shorter field.
Turnpike Lane
10/28/21 10:04am
Completely disagree and I hope I'm wrong.
antiyewt
10/28/21 8:56pm
It's true. We also disguise our coverages pretty well. We don't disguise blitzes
HONOMO
10/28/21 10:58am
I'd say that is BECAUSE of the secondary players, not because of the defensive scheme.
antiyewt
10/28/21 9:00pm
I would say that works better if you blitz early and get them thinking they have
Cougarite
10/28/21 11:05am
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Fdnman
10/28/21 11:31am
I'm gonna be honest, watching a game on TV you can't see any coverages. And most people at the games can't tell the
molodyets
10/28/21 11:35am
If you know defenses most of the time just watching where a one defender drops
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:57pm
RE: My frustration is not so much about dropping 8..it is how those 8 defend.
rad dawg
10/28/21 11:46am
His scheme would work if we a front 4 that could get home every once in awhile
CancunCoug
10/28/21 11:58am
Not when it's a base defense..
Coug
10/28/21 12:15pm
Mental pressure? Come on dude. Maybe for some, but we have been picked apart way
Blue for Life
10/28/21 1:57pm
RE: Tuiaki reiterated his belief that dropping 8 is mental pressure on the QB in
cougarapologist
10/28/21 2:37pm
Not much mental pressure when scouting rpt says there will be a giant hole 8-12yds downfield between hashes and it's
BlooGeek
10/28/21 2:38pm
It definitely puts mental pressure on CBers!
Roko's Basilisk
10/28/21 3:24pm
It’s called RPO. Just run the ball. No pressure at all.
Bobmarleyjr
10/28/21 3:51pm
H2 isnt wrong..but its ez 4o coach..hey qb take your time...
CarolinaCoug
10/28/21 7:42pm
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