RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

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Sep 27, 2022
4:55:20pm

Odysseus All-American

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Odysseus

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i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

IceWaterExtraIce

9/27/22 4:01pm

It is about being average to below average for the past 6 years other than the Covid year

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:03pm

It also helps when you want to ignore game specific performances that were good/

basman

9/27/22 4:06pm

Does a couple of good games make up for overall mediocrity? It doesn't for me.

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:08pm

That makes it worse. Means he's mediocre and inconsistent

jrifkin48

9/28/22 7:05am

That's like saying batting 0.100 great, let alone acceptable. I don't think so.

TrueBlue67

9/28/22 7:08am

Define below average. Because they've been just above average the last 6 seasons

Blueto

9/27/22 4:48pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 6:24pm

Average, a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data

Blueto

9/27/22 6:32pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 6:36pm

Here are the rankings

ManicBlue

9/27/22 7:29pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 8:20pm

That's an average ranking of 52. Solidly above average

Blueto

9/27/22 8:26pm

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chilawcoug

9/27/22 9:40pm

The reality is this…

LateToTheGame

9/27/22 10:25pm

Bwahaha typical argument for a Tuiaki lover. Hilarious. Can't reason with crazy.

ManicBlue

9/27/22 10:30pm

Nah. Just not a whiner like you. Win, lose, or draw you are here beating the

Blueto

9/27/22 11:22pm

Not hate. Just trying to open the eyes (and minds) of the blind.

ManicBlue

9/27/22 11:56pm

At least try to be honest on a BYU board...you running for office or something?

FMOCIE

9/28/22 5:26am

That too

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/27/22 6:45pm

FWIW we are currently 37th in total defense with our front loaded schedule.

YOHONOMOTO

9/27/22 11:01pm

Front loaded schedule playing 2 of the worst teams in FBS? Also, how did our defense do against the

ManicBlue

9/27/22 11:21pm

We are 13th SOS so far there fella

YOHONOMOTO

9/27/22 11:48pm

You sure like looking at things superficially huh?

ManicBlue

9/27/22 11:53pm

Superficially? You’re the one who just downplayed our schedule bc we played

YOHONOMOTO

9/27/22 11:55pm

Btw I don’t expect it to last. For the same reason you shouldn’t expect the

YOHONOMOTO

9/27/22 11:57pm

I expect our below average metrics to fall even further fyi.

ManicBlue

9/28/22 2:47pm

Who called them FCS teams? Losing it maybe?

ManicBlue

9/28/22 2:46pm

Message modified by ManicBlue on Sep 27, 2022 at 10:55:38pm

YOHONOMOTO

9/28/22 5:28pm

No I didn't and you're just being dishonest now.

ManicBlue

9/28/22 6:15pm

RE: Message modified by ManicBlue on Sep 27, 2022 at 10:55:38pm

ManicBlue

9/28/22 6:17pm

37th in what? Even Tuiaki apologists go to stat of ppg had us at 68. FEI has us at 60. PPD has us at 73

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 11:36pm

He's looking at the Total Defense stat only. Fails to mention we're 80th in Scoring Defense though. smh

ManicBlue

9/27/22 11:42pm

I would say mediocre.

YOHONOMOTO

9/28/22 12:00am

This is a great question. We have a ton of untapped potential. Also big 12

Swish

9/28/22 9:29am

RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

backprop

9/27/22 4:06pm

I think people have made up their minds the D is bad

Archaea

9/27/22 4:06pm

So you think that for some strange reason that BYU's offense has the ability to be one of the great offenses in the

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:09pm

The offense is good, not great.

Archaea

9/27/22 4:30pm

I guess you haven't seen the advanced stats. The offense has been unreal. If the offense performed at the same level

kimdaddy35

9/27/22 4:44pm

Kinda sucked against Oregon.

conetah

9/28/22 12:04am

Well it's not, so there's that.

Bluedarts

9/28/22 12:30am

Better tell all of the statistical metrics that is the case. Because they don't agree with you.

kimdaddy35

9/28/22 2:44pm

Well, what is a great offense? In what way is our offense great? I'm not a stat

Bluedarts

9/28/22 3:51pm

Some of us think the current talent is an indictment to the coaches who have

cougaman

9/27/22 4:12pm

Lamb is said the be the primary person responsible for the talent

Archaea

9/27/22 4:32pm

Not sure that is accurate.

Turnpike Lane

9/27/22 4:37pm

Tuiaki has been responsible for the DL for years. He has to have some

cougaman

9/27/22 4:52pm

Show me proof that Tuiaki is respond for

Archaea

9/27/22 5:44pm

He's a coach and the DC, he certainly has a responsibility there, or he really

cougaman

9/27/22 6:02pm

We don’t know who is responsible for

Archaea

9/27/22 6:51pm

So the DL/DC has no responsibility for any of the DL recruiting... Sure...

cougaman

9/27/22 7:06pm

No responsibility? Do you binary much?

Archaea

9/27/22 7:37pm

So what he's been responsible for has been good, he's not responsible for the

cougaman

9/27/22 7:56pm

Wow ... that's a huge reach for an excuse. Hope you didn't pull something.

ManicBlue

9/27/22 7:16pm

RE: Show me proof that Tuiaki is respond for

kotacoug

9/27/22 6:11pm

In 2021 it was bad. This year is average. Most years average. 2016 was fun.

Turnpike Lane

9/27/22 4:30pm

The D suffered an inordinate number of injuries.

Archaea

9/27/22 4:33pm

Lol it’s the same excuse every year. Time to face the reality that the DC is not

kotacoug

9/27/22 4:52pm

All advanced metrics show the D is not good.

kotacoug

9/27/22 4:50pm

for me it is about a seeming lack of identity and passion

COUGALICIOUS

9/27/22 4:08pm

RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

Hotlanta

9/27/22 4:12pm

RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

Chicken Joe

9/27/22 4:14pm

RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

Ted Lasso

9/27/22 4:16pm

I think CB just likes to have a whipping boy.

byu_coug

9/27/22 4:55pm

People were correct about Bronco, about Detmer and will be correct about Tuiak…

kotacoug

9/27/22 5:01pm

RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance

Odysseus

9/27/22 4:55pm

for me it's seeing how we play in games like the Utah game or vs Baylor and...

icecougar

9/27/22 5:00pm

Yup. This!!

Swish

9/27/22 11:15pm

This is how I feel and I don't even complain about the D that often.

CougaRR4L

9/27/22 5:32pm

the D hurts the offense. If we were aggressive and gave up the same points we

AFitisemanu

9/27/22 5:50pm

That’s my biggest beef. It’s almost worse allowing their offense to stay on the field so long with the…

NonmormonYfan89

9/27/22 5:53pm

For me it’s very specific

CasualFan

9/27/22 6:03pm

You must not watch many other teams all that much, or BYU for that matter

Hotlanta

9/27/22 6:11pm

Hahahaha

CasualFan

9/27/22 6:18pm

I want you to guess how many plays this happened vs Wyo. Got a # in your head?

Hotlanta

9/27/22 6:47pm

His name is casual fan. What more do you need to know

travelcoug

9/27/22 7:01pm

I regret to inform you that this is made up data and does not count in this argument.

backprop

9/27/22 7:08pm

False- I counted… first half we had all but 12 plays with 3 down linemen

1984coug

9/27/22 7:18pm

That's not the claim. We run a 3-4, yes.

Hotlanta

9/27/22 7:19pm

All the defensive players are injured because they play 3/4 of the minutes.

Bluedomination

9/27/22 6:12pm

I’ve said for awhile that even if by some miracle it was a top rated D, I would

Cousin Mose

9/27/22 6:37pm

It would never be a top rated D for those reasons

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/27/22 6:47pm

Yup

Cousin Mose

9/28/22 2:39pm

Can we have a separate category for Tuiaki or defense complaints?

sandiegocgrfan

9/27/22 7:09pm

Yes, please. I would love to turn off all the whiners

OldFogey

9/28/22 7:46am

I agree, these drives frustrate me too, but

Big Papi

9/28/22 8:01am

But why have we had so few DT and LB play in NFL since Tuiaki came in?

FMOCIE

9/28/22 8:51am

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chilawcoug

9/28/22 8:55am

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