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Sep 27, 2022
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sandiegocgrfan
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Can we have a separate category for Tuiaki or defense complaints?
I do agree with the OP on this one 😉
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i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
IceWaterExtraIce
9/27/22 4:01pm
It is about being average to below average for the past 6 years other than the Covid year
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:03pm
It also helps when you want to ignore game specific performances that were good/
basman
9/27/22 4:06pm
Does a couple of good games make up for overall mediocrity? It doesn't for me.
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:08pm
That makes it worse. Means he's mediocre and inconsistent
jrifkin48
9/28/22 7:05am
That's like saying batting 0.100 great, let alone acceptable. I don't think so.
TrueBlue67
9/28/22 7:08am
Define below average. Because they've been just above average the last 6 seasons
Blueto
9/27/22 4:48pm
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chilawcoug
9/27/22 6:24pm
Average, a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data
Blueto
9/27/22 6:32pm
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chilawcoug
9/27/22 6:36pm
Here are the rankings
ManicBlue
9/27/22 7:29pm
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chilawcoug
9/27/22 8:20pm
That's an average ranking of 52. Solidly above average
Blueto
9/27/22 8:26pm
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chilawcoug
9/27/22 9:40pm
The reality is this…
LateToTheGame
9/27/22 10:25pm
Bwahaha typical argument for a Tuiaki lover. Hilarious. Can't reason with crazy.
ManicBlue
9/27/22 10:30pm
Nah. Just not a whiner like you. Win, lose, or draw you are here beating the
Blueto
9/27/22 11:22pm
Not hate. Just trying to open the eyes (and minds) of the blind.
ManicBlue
9/27/22 11:56pm
At least try to be honest on a BYU board...you running for office or something?
FMOCIE
9/28/22 5:26am
That too
Tuskaloosa Cougar
9/27/22 6:45pm
FWIW we are currently 37th in total defense with our front loaded schedule.
YOHONOMOTO
9/27/22 11:01pm
Front loaded schedule playing 2 of the worst teams in FBS? Also, how did our defense do against the
ManicBlue
9/27/22 11:21pm
We are 13th SOS so far there fella
YOHONOMOTO
9/27/22 11:48pm
You sure like looking at things superficially huh?
ManicBlue
9/27/22 11:53pm
Superficially? You’re the one who just downplayed our schedule bc we played
YOHONOMOTO
9/27/22 11:55pm
Btw I don’t expect it to last. For the same reason you shouldn’t expect the
YOHONOMOTO
9/27/22 11:57pm
I expect our below average metrics to fall even further fyi.
ManicBlue
9/28/22 2:47pm
Who called them FCS teams? Losing it maybe?
ManicBlue
9/28/22 2:46pm
Message modified by ManicBlue on Sep 27, 2022 at 10:55:38pm
YOHONOMOTO
9/28/22 5:28pm
No I didn't and you're just being dishonest now.
ManicBlue
9/28/22 6:15pm
RE: Message modified by ManicBlue on Sep 27, 2022 at 10:55:38pm
ManicBlue
9/28/22 6:17pm
37th in what? Even Tuiaki apologists go to stat of ppg had us at 68. FEI has us at 60. PPD has us at 73
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 11:36pm
He's looking at the Total Defense stat only. Fails to mention we're 80th in Scoring Defense though. smh
ManicBlue
9/27/22 11:42pm
I would say mediocre.
YOHONOMOTO
9/28/22 12:00am
This is a great question. We have a ton of untapped potential. Also big 12
Swish
9/28/22 9:29am
RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
backprop
9/27/22 4:06pm
I think people have made up their minds the D is bad
Archaea
9/27/22 4:06pm
So you think that for some strange reason that BYU's offense has the ability to be one of the great offenses in the
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:09pm
The offense is good, not great.
Archaea
9/27/22 4:30pm
I guess you haven't seen the advanced stats. The offense has been unreal. If the offense performed at the same level
kimdaddy35
9/27/22 4:44pm
Kinda sucked against Oregon.
conetah
9/28/22 12:04am
Well it's not, so there's that.
Bluedarts
9/28/22 12:30am
Better tell all of the statistical metrics that is the case. Because they don't agree with you.
kimdaddy35
9/28/22 2:44pm
Well, what is a great offense? In what way is our offense great? I'm not a stat
Bluedarts
9/28/22 3:51pm
Some of us think the current talent is an indictment to the coaches who have
cougaman
9/27/22 4:12pm
Lamb is said the be the primary person responsible for the talent
Archaea
9/27/22 4:32pm
Not sure that is accurate.
Turnpike Lane
9/27/22 4:37pm
Tuiaki has been responsible for the DL for years. He has to have some
cougaman
9/27/22 4:52pm
Show me proof that Tuiaki is respond for
Archaea
9/27/22 5:44pm
He's a coach and the DC, he certainly has a responsibility there, or he really
cougaman
9/27/22 6:02pm
We don’t know who is responsible for
Archaea
9/27/22 6:51pm
So the DL/DC has no responsibility for any of the DL recruiting... Sure...
cougaman
9/27/22 7:06pm
No responsibility? Do you binary much?
Archaea
9/27/22 7:37pm
So what he's been responsible for has been good, he's not responsible for the
cougaman
9/27/22 7:56pm
Wow ... that's a huge reach for an excuse. Hope you didn't pull something.
ManicBlue
9/27/22 7:16pm
RE: Show me proof that Tuiaki is respond for
kotacoug
9/27/22 6:11pm
In 2021 it was bad. This year is average. Most years average. 2016 was fun.
Turnpike Lane
9/27/22 4:30pm
The D suffered an inordinate number of injuries.
Archaea
9/27/22 4:33pm
Lol it’s the same excuse every year. Time to face the reality that the DC is not
kotacoug
9/27/22 4:52pm
All advanced metrics show the D is not good.
kotacoug
9/27/22 4:50pm
for me it is about a seeming lack of identity and passion
COUGALICIOUS
9/27/22 4:08pm
RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
Hotlanta
9/27/22 4:12pm
RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
Chicken Joe
9/27/22 4:14pm
RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
Ted Lasso
9/27/22 4:16pm
I think CB just likes to have a whipping boy.
byu_coug
9/27/22 4:55pm
People were correct about Bronco, about Detmer and will be correct about Tuiak…
kotacoug
9/27/22 5:01pm
RE: i think the hate for the d is less about overall performance
Odysseus
9/27/22 4:55pm
for me it's seeing how we play in games like the Utah game or vs Baylor and...
icecougar
9/27/22 5:00pm
Yup. This!!
Swish
9/27/22 11:15pm
This is how I feel and I don't even complain about the D that often.
CougaRR4L
9/27/22 5:32pm
the D hurts the offense. If we were aggressive and gave up the same points we
AFitisemanu
9/27/22 5:50pm
That’s my biggest beef. It’s almost worse allowing their offense to stay on the field so long with the…
NonmormonYfan89
9/27/22 5:53pm
For me it’s very specific
CasualFan
9/27/22 6:03pm
You must not watch many other teams all that much, or BYU for that matter
Hotlanta
9/27/22 6:11pm
Hahahaha
CasualFan
9/27/22 6:18pm
I want you to guess how many plays this happened vs Wyo. Got a # in your head?
Hotlanta
9/27/22 6:47pm
His name is casual fan. What more do you need to know
travelcoug
9/27/22 7:01pm
I regret to inform you that this is made up data and does not count in this argument.
backprop
9/27/22 7:08pm
False- I counted… first half we had all but 12 plays with 3 down linemen
1984coug
9/27/22 7:18pm
That's not the claim. We run a 3-4, yes.
Hotlanta
9/27/22 7:19pm
All the defensive players are injured because they play 3/4 of the minutes.
Bluedomination
9/27/22 6:12pm
I’ve said for awhile that even if by some miracle it was a top rated D, I would
Cousin Mose
9/27/22 6:37pm
It would never be a top rated D for those reasons
Tuskaloosa Cougar
9/27/22 6:47pm
Yup
Cousin Mose
9/28/22 2:39pm
Can we have a separate category for Tuiaki or defense complaints?
sandiegocgrfan
9/27/22 7:09pm
Yes, please. I would love to turn off all the whiners
OldFogey
9/28/22 7:46am
I agree, these drives frustrate me too, but
Big Papi
9/28/22 8:01am
But why have we had so few DT and LB play in NFL since Tuiaki came in?
FMOCIE
9/28/22 8:51am
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chilawcoug
9/28/22 8:55am
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Bluedarts
9/28/22 10:06pm
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