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PHXSUNS31
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Yep, I agree with you. Jazz fans just need to look back on Rudy/Favors/Rubio
And how that worked out for them.
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Imo, this is a core w the potential to title-contend in the next 5 years:
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:08am
THT is not even a rotation player on a championship team
Jay Kay
1/27/23 1:15am
I'm not sold on tht at all. He can kind of playmake, but his outside shooting
Waluigi
1/27/23 1:16am
If he were 25 years old I'd be inclined to agree w ya.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:19am
THT? Who are you talking about?
Waluigi
1/27/23 1:19am
Talen Horton-Tucker.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:22am
I know he's only 22, but this is his fourth year and he's shown minimal
Waluigi
1/27/23 1:23am
He clearly left college too early for his own good.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:31am
How is Tucker a mismatch player? A 6'4" shooting guard who can't shoot. I don't get it.
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 3:28am
I think you're joking about John and Karl, but I agree about THT. All he has are
Waluigi
1/27/23 3:30am
Yeah, you did answer your own question. In addition:
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:45am
The old wingspan mismatch. It is the reason guys like Mo Bamba, Bismack Biyombo, Reggie Jackson and Dallas Lauderdale
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 4:05am
Okay. And what about the other things? In a single player?
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 4:10am
I certainly wouldn't want him in the Nuggets rotation.
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 4:13am
I did at least address that in my OP.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 4:18am
There’s maybe a world where he turns into a Marcus Smart lite
PHXSUNS31
1/27/23 9:54am
Guys who can't shoot can't stay on the court. Team building isn't about having two guys that can play defense and two
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 10:28am
If they can’t shoot they better either be an elite finisher or on ball creator
PHXSUNS31
1/27/23 11:54am
Exactly my point. But the OP wants to build around Vando, Kessler and THT. 3 guys that can't shoot. That might have
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 1:12pm
Yep, I agree with you. Jazz fans just need to look back on Rudy/Favors/Rubio
PHXSUNS31
1/27/23 1:33pm
"Build around" not in the sense of a starting core
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:41pm
"THT can clearly shoot"??? Ummmmm....ok. The stats don't back up your claim.
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 1:45pm
If the strength of his game were primarily shooting I'd be inclined to agree.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:46pm
Not following your logic, please explain. He can clearly shoot because his game isn't primarily shooting?
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 1:53pm
The form, skill & release is all there. He's a very dynamic shooter, in fact.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 2:27pm
I'm not sure dynamic means what you think it does. But we will agree to disagree. One day he might be as good
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 2:41pm
Luckily for him, he's more valuable on offense as a non-scorer than Russell.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 2:53pm
Hmmm, not sure there are many in the NBA who believe that. I mean the Jazz acquired him and another guy with a song.
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 3:04pm
I think any team in need of a facilitator over a scorer — most certainly would.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:17pm
Well the evidence says quite the contrary. First the stats show Westbrook with 7.5 assists per game. THT has
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 3:26pm
By assist percentage, THT and NAW are about the same as creators
krindorr
1/27/23 3:33pm
Westbrook is primarily a drive-n-dump assists guy. Those stats are inflated.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:34pm
RE: Imo, this is a core w the potential to title-contend in the next 5 years:
ManicBlue
1/27/23 1:18am
If naw keeps shooting well, I think he has a shot. Maybe he can expand his
Waluigi
1/27/23 1:22am
When the Jazz first got NAW and at the start of this season, I thought he had no chance to stick in the league, but
ManicBlue
1/27/23 1:51am
NAW is an interesting prospect too, I agree.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 1:45am
As a Nugget's fan, I hope that is the group they try and contend with for the next 5 years.
kimdaddy35
1/27/23 2:53am
That's why I called it a "core" — to build on. The Jazz
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:06am
A contender's core usually has an established star, Lauri, and another star in
Waluigi
1/27/23 3:32am
Do you think McHale & Bird "occupied the same area" any worse
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:43am
Put a lid on the excitement. Larry bird is a top 10 talent of all time with
Waluigi
1/27/23 3:52am
Put a lid on your own omniscient comparison-parsing.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 3:55am
You have the first two correct, the others not so much.
cougar95
1/27/23 5:51am
What
JoeExotic
1/27/23 6:07am
I can't believe I read through that.
Northwest Cougar
1/27/23 6:19am
I see a lot of people thinking Lauri Markannen is a 3 - he most definitely is not
krindorr
1/27/23 6:29am
I think Lauri could certainly play a 3 if he's matched w the right
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 7:13am
Agreed, there's certain lineups where he can kind of work as a 3, but it's certainly not his best spot
krindorr
1/27/23 7:29am
The Jazz still need a #1
RockyBalboa
1/27/23 7:13am
We certainly need another star-level player.
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 7:28am
THT is a role player, nothing more. Jazz def need another bonafide star
RockyBalboa
1/27/23 7:36am
At 22 — you're sure of that, huh?
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 7:41am
In his first 4 years, he's shown an inability to create, distribute or shoot
krindorr
1/27/23 7:48am
Yeah, my least favorite thing is when he barrels in toward the basket with
Northwest Cougar
1/27/23 9:15am
Yes.
RockyBalboa
1/27/23 7:51am
Lol, no. Markkanen is a number one guy. He just needs more touches. His true
CougarTailDevourer
1/27/23 7:52am
He's a great #1 on a fringe playoff team.
JoeExotic
1/27/23 7:59am
Markannen is not Durant (or even close) despite one stat being similar
krindorr
1/27/23 8:28am
Durrant has all the talent, but only won by going to Golden State.
porcupinetree
1/27/23 10:25am
...so it's hard to win even with a freakishly talented clear #1 guy? Agreed
krindorr
1/27/23 10:32am
Durrant has the talent, but lacks the winning mentality. Mentally weak.
porcupinetree
1/27/23 12:10pm
Scoot would be huge. A Scoot/Markkanen duo is something to build on.
PHXSUNS31
1/27/23 9:58am
To contend for a title you usually need 3 stars - and one has to be a superstar. We’ve got 1.
dryflyelk
1/27/23 7:27am
I didn't mean to suggest our core of best players is set. As I explained
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 7:32am
I feel like you could say this about every team; if they add a few stars, they could be title contenders
krindorr
1/27/23 7:45am
For sure. I'm speaking Jazz-centrically. Some of my wording is misleading
SinkingQuffa
1/27/23 7:52am
Is this a joke? The only thing missing is championship level first and second
GeorgeAlbertsgoatie
1/27/23 8:22am
Yeah right
TNT
1/27/23 8:55am
If only TNT had chosen one letter differently. His boardname is one letter
Northwest Cougar
1/27/23 9:18am
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