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Mar 7, 2024
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Tokolosh
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No, no. The sub 4s 40s thing is absolute truth. Even our linemen.
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Reports that Utah negotiated a way to leave the big 12 easily
1984coug
Mar 7, 8:42am
I'm not buying it. As much as I love my school we don't have leverage to get some special deal.
Tokolosh
Mar 7, 8:44am
It's very possible that Utah/AZ/ASU were a package deal, and they had considerable leverage if Yormark wanted
slappy
Mar 7, 9:12am
The pac 12 was dead without all 4 coming. Just AZ and CO would have killed it
ColonelMustard
Mar 7, 12:26pm
Which is weird because Utah and ASU wouldn't save the ACC
CameronG
Mar 7, 1:36pm
We also didn't need them to help the Big 12
WJCougar
Mar 7, 1:44pm
Yep, the Big 12 could've humbled them and made them take a partial share for
CameronG
Mar 7, 1:47pm
Not likely
slatecoug
Mar 7, 1:10pm
What leverage? They had no where to go?
Bobmarleyjr
Mar 7, 1:27pm
Utah was threatening to stay with OR. St. and Wazzu
slatecoug
Mar 7, 1:35pm
Threatening to join the MWC isn't exactly scary.
Les IsMore
Mar 7, 5:44pm
Are you kidding? Utah's addition alone would lift the MWC to Power Conf. status.
slatecoug
Mar 8, 3:26pm
It’s probably a standard thing now-a-days. BYU had an out negotiated with WCC…
icecougar
Mar 7, 11:58am
that was specifically tagged to football joining a P5 wasn't it?
Powerbait DPM
Mar 7, 2:08pm
All conferences have an exit fee but non FBS conference don't
Bobmarleyjr
Mar 7, 3:35pm
A lot of the non-FBS conferences ban departing schools from being conference
CameronG
Mar 7, 3:55pm
Tom is probably the one that suggested it.
Longseason
Mar 7, 8:46am
KSL has taken a liking to the utes, so why not BYU's AD?
BlueFever
Mar 7, 8:54am
I mean, if they want to leave, I didn't want them here, anyway
fattycoug
Mar 7, 9:05am
I didn’t and still don’t want them in ANY P4 conference. Let them die.
TeeKaa
Mar 7, 9:44am
They didn't want to go to the Big 12. Neither did ASU
TNT
Mar 7, 12:37pm
Should've let them die on the vine or go to the ACC where they'd make half the
CameronG
Mar 7, 1:39pm
I could see this happening, Tom has always been a Utah fan and praised them at
CameronG
Mar 7, 1:37pm
What reports? Who is saying this? Are they reliable sources of information?
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 8:47am
Some guy got their hands on Utah's and Colorado's agreements and compared the 2
The Toolman
Mar 7, 8:48am
Where
fattycoug
Mar 7, 9:06am
Link to report cited the debate is over point 4
The Toolman
Mar 7, 9:12am
Pretty benign difference and doesn't really amount to an out clause. Good find though.
Tokolosh
Mar 7, 9:26am
Sure, seems more of a gaffe on Colorado than a plus for Utah but mild reguardles
The Toolman
Mar 7, 9:31am
The difference doesn't amount to anything. I read the link and the bylaws
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 9:40am
Wouldn’t the 99 year clause have more to do with an exit fee then?
OKchief
Mar 7, 10:44am
OU and TX paid an exit fee because they negotiated an exit one year before the
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 2:15pm
This. Lots of legal agreements are like this, where terms or language are
BlooCoug
Mar 7, 1:19pm
Interesting documents, but I'd recommend caution on accepting the author's interpretations.
Wadds
Mar 7, 12:07pm
Well now we can see why Utah needed
First-n-10
Mar 7, 12:13pm
Stop believing everything you read on Ute comments. They also run sub 4 40s.
Mabuhay Coug
Mar 7, 10:52am
Maybe the Oline
DiamondMo
Mar 7, 11:14am
No, no. The sub 4s 40s thing is absolute truth. Even our linemen.
Tokolosh
Mar 7, 11:23am
Just not your WR’s
icecougar
Mar 7, 11:59am
Nope, Vele only ran a 4.47. Slow as molasses.
displacedute
Mar 7, 2:29pm
Report from those 3 Utes in the basement? No way did they have any leverage.
rivercitycoug
Mar 7, 8:47am
Give me a break.
Idacoug
Mar 7, 8:48am
Why, they want to go back to the MWC?
Count Cougar
Mar 7, 8:50am
Utah really thinks they’re eventually going to get in the big 10.
RdF3
Mar 7, 8:52am
Big 10 commissioner reading that contract...
WJCougar
Mar 7, 8:52am
signed Utah Pig Bus
BYU Grounds
Mar 7, 8:52am
What this punctures is CB life raft narrative. If Utah was able to get GOR
CallSign
Mar 7, 8:55am
all of the PAC XII refugees were given that status bc they were already P5 err 4 or 5 ...
BYU Grounds
Mar 7, 8:58am
No, it's because you were already P5 and the TV money was increased pro-rata and was probably necessary to
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:02am
GOR exemption, if report is accurate. Eyes on the ball Mulletino.
CallSign
Mar 7, 9:04am
I replied to your post which mentioned a full share from day 1. Eyes on the ball CallSign.
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:07am
Cognitive dissonance is a bear ain’t it?
CallSign
Mar 7, 9:15am
Explain, please, how in your mind I would have cognitive dissonance. Or just keep moving the goalposts.
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:17am
So are commas #uteeducation
Burton162
Mar 7, 5:39pm
It’s not a grant of right exemption. It’s an exemption from the 99 years thing
ColonelMustard
Mar 7, 12:33pm
RE: What this punctures is CB life raft narrative. If Utah was able to get GOR
Longseason
Mar 7, 9:03am
Here’s the article, don’t know validity of writer or sources.
CallSign
Mar 7, 9:20am
CB has argued all along that Yormark & B12 wanted UU *way* more than Y fans did.
cougarmeister
Mar 7, 9:34am
Lateral move for Utes means they stay relatively equal. Major step up for AAC
NYC and Japan
Mar 7, 9:47am
No. Actually it doesn't.
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 9:50am
Except they weren’t. Read the contract. Let the mental gymnastics begin
ColonelMustard
Mar 7, 12:31pm
It wouldn't surprise me at all if they ASKED for this.
Tricky
Mar 7, 8:56am
Lol, no way.
Peter Venkman
Mar 7, 9:00am
"Reports" with no substantiation...nice
CLCougar
Mar 7, 9:04am
Here's the source. Claims to have gotten the details through FOIA requests
slappy
Mar 7, 9:14am
<< Deleted >>
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:16am
RE: Again, prove it. If it was learned via FOIA, show the source documents.
slappy
Mar 7, 9:17am
did you click the link? both agreements in full can be read there
The Toolman
Mar 7, 9:18am
haha...got it. Reading.
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:22am
Thx
CLCougar
Mar 7, 9:22am
It's a distinction without any actual difference. Utah is still bound by the GOR
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 9:53am
Well, it's been settled then. All the Ute homers on here can go touch grass.
Atmospheric_Cougar
Mar 7, 12:56pm
*Any* decent lawyer would push for this flexibility. If a new national super
Cosmos-beard-card
Mar 7, 9:29am
Question: Was the 99 year clause any type of barrier to Texas or Oklahoma?
BYUMizzou
Mar 7, 9:55am
Not only Texas and Oklahoma, it wasn't a barrier for CU, NU, Mizzou or A&M
CameronG
Mar 7, 3:53pm
I assumed the clause was to avoid a buyout. Did these teams leave w/o paying?
Cosmos-beard-card
Mar 12, 12:07am
They still had to pay to leave, the number wasn't as high as the numbers we see
CameronG
Mar 12, 9:23am
To be clear: clause or no clause, UU def thinks they are better than everyone
Cosmos-beard-card
Mar 14, 12:27pm
Sorry Utes, it was a fun idea though.
mulletino
Mar 7, 9:33am
one way to find out: GRAMMA request the contract.
bob falfa
Mar 7, 10:14am
Gramma barely knows how to use the remote control
machete
Mar 7, 11:17am
I have a hard time seeing anyone from west being added to B10/SEC
Dr T-bone
Mar 7, 11:22am
I smell a lot of fear in this thread
Medute
Mar 7, 12:31pm
It only matters because Utah fans use reports like these to show their programs
ColonelMustard
Mar 7, 12:39pm
It would be very bad for BYU football/basketball if Utah were to go to the B1G
TNT
Mar 7, 12:39pm
Why would it be bad for BYU Basketball?
slatecoug
Mar 7, 1:24pm
I don’t agree with Bill’s interpretation.
Bill Restivu
Mar 7, 12:43pm
You are smelling something else, good time to leave CB & find out what it is lol
Atmospheric_Cougar
Mar 7, 1:01pm
Fear of what exactly?
slatecoug
Mar 7, 1:23pm
This is why I didn’t get why people rooted for PAC to implode
Bobmarleyjr
Mar 7, 1:25pm
Pac12 would have sniped Big12 teams, and BYU would've been left out again
machete
Mar 7, 3:06pm
Huh? Are you sure you're in the right universe? PAC couldn't get a contract
Bobmarleyjr
Mar 7, 3:36pm
I'm glad Tom doesn't let the mantra "stick it to Utah!" govern his votes on
ocmyhome
Mar 7, 3:49pm
<< Deleted >>
lawking
Mar 7, 4:08pm
Yes, the B1G will be calling in the next several weeks. I know it.
Rocketman
Mar 7, 5:20pm
At this point, I would be sooooo happy for Utah to be out of the Big XII
Burton162
Mar 7, 5:43pm
We'll never learn.
Big McLargeHuge
Mar 7, 11:21pm
Nope. They weren’t wanted that badly to have special concessions despite the salt lake county narrative.
carmelcougar
Mar 8, 10:40pm
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