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May 19, 2016
4:37:48pm

kimdaddy35 All-American

The best salesmen I have ever seen make relationships with

the clients they want to work with and establish trust. It is then through those relationships that they get business. I have been working in Sales for the past 12 years.

If you are selling a commodity it is much more of a numbers game. Colleges are not commodities as they are very different.

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kimdaddy35

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I'm skeptical of the recruiting tactics of the new regime

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 1:50pm

Sounds like you're stressing yourself out about things you shouldn't.

Vincent's Picks

5/19/16 1:52pm

Stressed out? No. Worried we may go through a down cycle if

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 2:03pm

One of the advantages with this staff is it opens up new recruiting channels.

Vincent's Picks

5/19/16 2:13pm

I absolutely agree it will open up opportunities with polys

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 2:18pm

I'm basing it on Gifford, Kalani, Ty, Ed, etc...

Vincent's Picks

5/19/16 2:21pm

So basically your opinion?

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:34pm

Yes. Wait a minute...are we fighting?

Vincent's Picks

5/19/16 8:23pm

So offering more talent means talent acquired will go down?

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 7:19pm

Bronco recruits (walkons) will always be available so there you go

Y4LYFE

5/20/16 7:07am

Byu has also been accused of being lazy

5/19/16 1:53pm

The majority of big recruits that Sitake got were guys that

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 2:05pm

Name one we've missed that should've come up to now?

whiteninja

5/19/16 3:39pm

I could name a bunch, but you would say we shouldn't have come up with them

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:32pm

It seems to me that the recruiting progression goes like this

LosAlcoug

5/19/16 4:21pm

Why have worry posts in May?

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 7:26pm

My take: as much as it was reported Sitake was going after big names

mantis mutu

5/20/16 6:24am

The big names don't commit until the end of the process. Wait till signing day

scott715

5/20/16 9:45am

Maybe wait a bit to see how things shake out before wringing your hands too much

5/19/16 1:54pm

I get the angst, but let's go a couple full recruiting classes before we say

5/19/16 1:54pm

I agree 100% and meant to convey that in the post

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 2:07pm

Without the angst, what is Cougarboard?

fan_byu

5/19/16 2:24pm

What I wonder is what happens when recruits figure out BYU has offered a ton of

Indy Coug

5/19/16 1:56pm

I think this is a huge part of it

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 2:00pm

How often though is a kid really the only one being recruited at his position?

Polecat

5/19/16 2:37pm

P.S. Since I don't know the answers to the questions I posed

Indy Coug

5/19/16 2:10pm

I knew you hated BYU football. You're such a negative poster. Sheesh...

Mathew

5/20/16 2:35am

It can also entice a kid on the fence to commit early since the spot may be gone

Ghost

5/19/16 3:39pm

You are looking at it backwards.

Backcountry

5/19/16 6:20pm

The fear of a loss of scholarship? If we're gunning for players being wooed

Indy Coug

5/19/16 8:47pm

Some, yes.

Backcountry

5/19/16 8:49pm

Why is that a question when it's nothing more than what

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 7:04pm

He is treating it like a salesman would.

digitalayon

5/19/16 2:47pm

The best salesmen I have ever seen make relationships with

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:37pm

I've been in sales 20 years

byukarl

5/20/16 8:02am

I agree

digitalayon

5/20/16 12:25pm

No doubt about that

kimdaddy35

5/20/16 6:34pm

Well we tried your way for the last decade. Time for something new

kotacoug

5/19/16 2:48pm

Not really. Bronco was getting better at recruiting, but admittedly didn't

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:41pm

I'm skeptical of this post

CougarFootballHomer

5/19/16 2:52pm

We'll always get the guys "actually interest in BYU" the question is who else?

CougarFootballHomer

5/19/16 2:54pm

You mean guys like Britain Covey who have ties to BYU?

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:30pm

It is interesting, Sitake seems the shotgun approach while Bronco had the rifle

BYUfan92

5/19/16 3:06pm

Bronco had an elf knife

Y4LYFE

5/20/16 7:09am

Do you realize how much of an outlier BYU recruiting has been compared to other

wcj99

5/19/16 3:16pm

Bingo. Other schools are offering hundreds more.

Bostonblue

5/19/16 4:13pm

So more offers = good work ethic?

TheKing

5/19/16 5:02pm

It just shows people base their worries not on

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 7:41pm

Interesting, and incorrect, interpretation of what I said.

wcj99

5/19/16 8:24pm

I was agreeing with you man.

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 9:04pm

That's not how I read your comments, but in that case I apologize.

wcj99

5/19/16 11:03pm

200-250? Is there a source for that?

JadonY

5/19/16 8:34pm

I use the Rivals database.

wcj99

5/19/16 11:01pm

honeymoon already over...

Cougarclaw

5/19/16 3:42pm

Was there really a honeymoon?

Heinz57

5/19/16 4:17pm

Does Kalani know of your skepticism? Give him a call or leave a voice message.

BYU I Bleed Blue

5/19/16 4:16pm

You are right tough guy, no one should ever say anything even remotely

kimdaddy35

5/19/16 4:38pm

Wow, strike a nerve there? I'm not saying you can't question things but when the

BYU I Bleed Blue

5/19/16 8:23pm

Seems to me that players are waiting to see how Sitake does before committing

dallinski

5/19/16 4:27pm

Great point

Lalau

5/19/16 4:45pm

would you recommend KS go back to how BM did it and only offer 60-70 recruits

Bostonblue

5/19/16 4:57pm

You don't follow recruiting much do you?

molodyets

5/19/16 4:58pm

Too early to really tell, honestly.

Harrison0Yfan

5/19/16 5:05pm

I'd rather recruit too hard than not recruit at alll...and thats the way it was

Y4LYFE

5/19/16 5:35pm

He's here all week folks!!!

coug10278

5/20/16 3:00pm

It's post like these that drive me crazy - I can't even begin to say why

BlueSioux

5/19/16 5:54pm

Oh gosh. You guys are hilarious.

southernfriedcougar

5/19/16 7:02pm

Have you seen how many scholies a place like Alabama hands out?

Archaea

5/19/16 7:24pm

Bronco missed out on players because he didn't offer enough

Dr T-bone

5/19/16 8:25pm

When are you ever NOT skeptical?

SaintGeorgeYFan

5/19/16 9:34pm

Yes the vast majority of the time

kimdaddy35

5/20/16 2:52am

Bronco narrowed the pool too much.

Thrill

5/20/16 9:17am

Check back after June summer camps

LV Coug

5/20/16 9:40am

Are you a paid staff member?

JuanitaCougar

5/20/16 11:24am

It's BSU's formula to success. You get your name out there to all the big names

mantis mutu

5/20/16 11:25am

Interesting as they only have 39 offers according to Rivals

kimdaddy35

5/20/16 6:37pm

RE: I'm skeptical of the recruiting tactics of the new regime

Bullrider

5/20/16 12:15pm

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