Uh, no. That's not "all" we can do.

Sep 18, 2019
10:39:04am

Tortillero All-American

Would you teach your toddler not to go into the road and then just have really good communication with them? Heck no. You'd do everything in your power to keep them from killing themselves. Toddlers and teenagers aren't all that different.

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Tortillero

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If your kids have phones and data plans

Future_Tacos

9/18/19 9:34am

I just want to point out your kids can totally do all of this without a phone.

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:37am

Care to elaborate?

zerigke

9/18/19 9:41am

Kids can send nude pictures of themselves to others without a phone. Kids

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:43am

Just that a phone with Apps makes it way easier.

Turnpike Lane

9/18/19 9:47am

Maybe for sending photos, but the rest?

SandYFan

9/18/19 9:55am

Totally makes it easier and worse

LCcoug

9/18/19 11:01pm

Any WiFi enabled device; or they can borrow one from a friend.

El Fuego

9/18/19 9:58am

If kids go to that extent, unless you have them under constant video

Zedhead

9/18/19 9:39am

Teach them correct principles....and communicate as much as possible.

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:45am

Uh, no. That's not "all" we can do.

Tortillero

9/18/19 10:39am

Depends on the kid.

rcbyufan

9/18/19 10:43am

"We see the undertow and we say...""There's the undertow! There's the undertow!"

zerigke

9/18/19 10:45am

I can’t accept that as a basis for not doing whatever you can

WizeGuise

9/18/19 9:48am

You can also not hand them a loaded gun when they don’t know how to properly use

Blue2thebone

9/19/19 1:16pm

There are some good apps that lock these out. I use ourpact and have had...

whiteninja

9/18/19 9:42am

don't blame technology... blame ignorance.

TheLost

9/18/19 9:44am

I believe that was my intended point. Why would anybody blame the phone?

Future_Tacos

9/18/19 9:46am

Happens all the time

supertux

9/18/19 10:08am

My father is in IT for his profession...he has no clue what the dumb stuff i did

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:49am

You are very naive thinking those tools aren't circumvented.

j20

9/18/19 1:48pm

"Not that I think my boys are doing anything" - If you gave your kids unfiltered

WDaddy

9/18/19 9:49am

And even if you did put filters on, there ways around that as well.

JohnnyC

9/18/19 9:59am

Yep. I've tried every phone monitoring app out there. My 18 yr old son has found

WDaddy

9/18/19 10:00am

Kids really don't need data, but they get wifi everywhere so it almost doesn't

Baron

9/18/19 9:59am

We have fought what feels like a never-ending battle over this with our son.

Phasor

9/18/19 10:04am

You're not alone on this.

j20

9/18/19 1:51pm

Don’t get me wrong. The best medicine is a strong foundation of faith and a

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:06am

Honestly, there is only so much we as parents can do

A_blue_car

9/18/19 10:17am

Its just like every other 'vice' (smoking, drinking, drugs, sex... etc)

TheLost

9/18/19 10:48am

Except ... you don't put the whiskey bottle in their hand, but the biggest

runnincoug

9/18/19 11:18am

Yet people have no problem giving teens a car... a device that can kill...

TheLost

9/18/19 11:29am

Driving is also not the same as social media

runnincoug

9/18/19 2:57pm

Everything you said is true... and proves my point..

TheLost

9/18/19 4:03pm

I've known many parents who take your approach and regret it, and the research

runnincoug

9/18/19 5:19pm

What ever works best for you... 👍 .. however it goes back to what i said before

TheLost

9/18/19 6:01pm

I'm well aware of the parental restrictions available and how flip phones

runnincoug

9/18/19 6:22pm

A whole generation is being devastated?

A_blue_car

9/18/19 9:59pm

anecdotes are of course not research evidence. Here's the research evidence.

runnincoug

9/18/19 10:53pm

Could some of these increases be because it’s more common to talk about

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 7:18am

Yes, but that doesn't seem to explain all the increase.

runnincoug

9/19/19 8:09am

but, but, but, without smart phones they'll miss out on ice cream parties!

Mitty

9/19/19 4:44pm

No need to give them a phone though. It’s not like they can’t learn to have one

puntersarepeople

9/18/19 9:46pm

You are a little outdated in that thinking... some kids NEED a smartphone..

TheLost

9/19/19 8:03am

I'll add health reasons to that list

A_blue_car

9/19/19 8:10am

I have two teenagers involved in HS sports/orchestra/theater without data plans

runnincoug

9/19/19 8:14am

You know WiFi is exactly the same as a 'data plan' right? its even worse...

TheLost

9/19/19 8:24am

Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's abilities

runnincoug

9/19/19 9:31am

Thanks for posting. As you said earlier, I wish I has waited to give my kids a

WDaddy

9/19/19 9:46am

RE: Yes, I do research in media and psychology. I'm well aware of wifi's

Phasor

9/19/19 10:45am

I think this is a very "real life" post that illustrates that it isn't as easy

A_blue_car

9/19/19 11:19am

Really good post... thank you.

runnincoug

9/19/19 11:44am

I don’t recommend going full Amish

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 3:53pm

I can't figure out why anyone gives young teens cell phones. Been

Mitty

9/18/19 9:13pm

My 14 year old nephew spent a week with us this summer.

Blue2thebone

9/18/19 11:12pm

So...everybody. Looks like you covered your bases well there.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:10am

And yet you are okay withholding driving privileges until 16.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/19/19 12:00am

A phone isn't a whiskey bottle

A_blue_car

9/18/19 11:46am

It's a whisky bar.

CougarMandias

9/19/19 5:25am

True but you don’t teach a kid about gun safety and then leave a loaded

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 11:57pm

The hands in the air defeatist approach is just an excuse for lazy parenting.

StalwartBraveTrue

9/18/19 11:55pm

No twitter?

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 7:20am

Adults shouldn't even be on Twitter.

rcbyufan

9/19/19 7:30am

Haha!! It is an interesting app

puntersarepeople

9/19/19 1:08pm

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