We aren't good at efficiency, and our SOS-adjusted PPG is bad

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Nov 13, 2019
8:30:49am

Coop All-American

We aren't good at efficiency, and our SOS-adjusted PPG is bad

Our defense is 76th in FEI, which is the Football Outsiders' measure to capture the stuff in the article you linked. So by the authority you are citing, our defense is not good. Our defense is 79th in SP+, which is Bill Connelly's SOS-adjusted PPG measure. So it isn't good by "the number of points we're giving up," either.

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You can't fire Tuiaki with the number of points we're giving up. That's obscene.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:20am

If you’re going to play that style of D then the metric should change and

kotacoug

11/13/19 8:28am

Or the offense can make first downs.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:31am

The D frequently gifts the offense with short fields.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:40am

The quality and the efficiency of the Offense is another metric.

kotacoug

11/13/19 8:56am

We aren't good at efficiency, and our SOS-adjusted PPG is bad

Coop

11/13/19 8:30am

if our PPG defense was good, then maybe but in addition to

BigYfan

11/13/19 8:37am

Defense isn't giving up 27.4 per game.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:42am

Adjusting for strength of offenses faced, it's giving up 29.9 points per game

Coop

11/13/19 8:51am

LOL. Take out 2 pick sixes vs UU, UW fumble TD, Toledo from the 1 = 21 ppg vs D.

Benfica1

11/13/19 8:54am

Defensive TDs don't count in that metric, and TDs from the 1 count less

Coop

11/13/19 9:00am

Only one team has scored over 29

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:05am

It doesn't matter

Coop

11/13/19 9:11am

Your little stat here means nothing. 29.9? 31 is the season high the D gave up

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:17am

You didn't understand my example; all I really need to know

Coop

11/13/19 9:18am

I understand it, but it simply isn't a good way to evaluate a defense.

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:22am

D only allowed 31 vs. UW

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:15am

The irony of your subsequent posts after your OP is quite epic

Coop

11/13/19 9:19am

LOL. You're 'crying' because I showed actual stats. That's cute.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:09am

You don't understand the stats that you are sharing

Coop

11/13/19 9:13am

Coop is so smart. LOL. Nope, using actual stats from the games.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:19am

That you don't understand

Coop

11/13/19 9:20am

Yep, don't understand your hypothetical stats that don't apply to actual games.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:23am

Pick 6 vs UW as well.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:23am

One was a fumble. I forgot the punt return for a TD. Drops the PPG to 20.75

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:32am

The defense is giving up 20.75 points per game

Benfica1

11/13/19 8:59am

You’re neglecting the stat on field position.

pilot17

11/13/19 8:50am

Yeah you can and its not. He has faced #12,34 41,55 76,90 96,100,111 rated off

11/13/19 8:50am

The author, Bill Connelly, created S&P+ to measure how teams are doing in

jkccoug

11/13/19 8:50am

Week 11 is already out; we're 79th now

Coop

11/13/19 8:52am

And there it is. 79th is poor.

11/13/19 8:52am

Fascinating article! Thanks!

rockhound

11/13/19 9:02am

We aren't firing Tuiaki, no chance, lets move on

OC Coug

11/13/19 9:09am

I'm a pretty vocal critic of Tuiaki, but I'm willing to comb through some stats

ldssdl

11/13/19 9:24am

So, here's what I've surmised about the defense based on these important stats.

ldssdl

11/13/19 9:34am

RE: So, here's what I've surmised about the defense based on these important

11/13/19 11:01am

Alright, I don’t have any stats to back up my last statement, but how else do

ldssdl

11/13/19 11:40am

I put inconsistency of effort on Kalani's shoulders, not Tuiaki's because

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 11:46am

You don't. It's frustrating, but you just don't.

11/13/19 11:58am

Yep. And explosiveness goes both ways. A pick downfield is not as valuable

Ash

11/13/19 1:51pm

We're doing well in terms of preventing explosiveness and turnovers.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:37am

Turnovers are harder to control

Indy Coug

11/13/19 10:11am

That's what I said.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 10:17am

Yeah, but turnovers are harder to control.

sah22

11/13/19 10:40am

The passing yards are often a direct result of the fact that the

oldrugger

11/13/19 10:39am

No, they don't. I have inside knowledge that coaches don't watch film, let alone

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 11:17am

Liberty had 17 "chunk" plays and 5 "explosive" plays against BYU.

SpiffCoug

11/13/19 10:41am

These are excellent data that show one way that Tuiaki's defense is fool's gold.

ldssdl

11/13/19 10:50am

I have it on good authority that the O is to blame for our tired D.

hydrocoug

11/13/19 12:08pm

16 per game feels like a lot and confirms what many are seeing

D.T. Survivor

11/13/19 12:03pm

Last year we gave up 11.4 & 3.9. In 2017 those numbers were 12.3 & 3.9. And in 2016, 11.0 & 4.9

SpiffCoug

11/13/19 12:15pm

If you think Tuiaki is doing a good job, you are clueless.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/13/19 3:03pm

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