Defensive TDs don't count in that metric, and TDs from the 1 count less

Nov 13, 2019
9:00:15am

Coop All-American

So all that stuff you are crying about is accounted for, and the proper points allowed to consider the defense as giving up per game is . . . 29.9.

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You can't fire Tuiaki with the number of points we're giving up. That's obscene.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:20am

If you’re going to play that style of D then the metric should change and

kotacoug

11/13/19 8:28am

Or the offense can make first downs.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:31am

The D frequently gifts the offense with short fields.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:40am

The quality and the efficiency of the Offense is another metric.

kotacoug

11/13/19 8:56am

We aren't good at efficiency, and our SOS-adjusted PPG is bad

Coop

11/13/19 8:30am

if our PPG defense was good, then maybe but in addition to

BigYfan

11/13/19 8:37am

Defense isn't giving up 27.4 per game.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 8:42am

Adjusting for strength of offenses faced, it's giving up 29.9 points per game

Coop

11/13/19 8:51am

LOL. Take out 2 pick sixes vs UU, UW fumble TD, Toledo from the 1 = 21 ppg vs D.

Benfica1

11/13/19 8:54am

Defensive TDs don't count in that metric, and TDs from the 1 count less

Coop

11/13/19 9:00am

Only one team has scored over 29

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:05am

It doesn't matter

Coop

11/13/19 9:11am

Your little stat here means nothing. 29.9? 31 is the season high the D gave up

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:17am

You didn't understand my example; all I really need to know

Coop

11/13/19 9:18am

I understand it, but it simply isn't a good way to evaluate a defense.

MikeDitka'sStache

11/13/19 9:22am

D only allowed 31 vs. UW

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:15am

The irony of your subsequent posts after your OP is quite epic

Coop

11/13/19 9:19am

LOL. You're 'crying' because I showed actual stats. That's cute.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:09am

You don't understand the stats that you are sharing

Coop

11/13/19 9:13am

Coop is so smart. LOL. Nope, using actual stats from the games.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:19am

That you don't understand

Coop

11/13/19 9:20am

Yep, don't understand your hypothetical stats that don't apply to actual games.

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:23am

Pick 6 vs UW as well.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:23am

One was a fumble. I forgot the punt return for a TD. Drops the PPG to 20.75

Benfica1

11/13/19 9:32am

The defense is giving up 20.75 points per game

Benfica1

11/13/19 8:59am

You’re neglecting the stat on field position.

pilot17

11/13/19 8:50am

Yeah you can and its not. He has faced #12,34 41,55 76,90 96,100,111 rated off

CarolinaCoug

11/13/19 8:50am

The author, Bill Connelly, created S&P+ to measure how teams are doing in

jkccoug

11/13/19 8:50am

Week 11 is already out; we're 79th now

Coop

11/13/19 8:52am

And there it is. 79th is poor.

Turnpike Lane

11/13/19 8:52am

Fascinating article! Thanks!

rockhound

11/13/19 9:02am

We aren't firing Tuiaki, no chance, lets move on

OC Coug

11/13/19 9:09am

I'm a pretty vocal critic of Tuiaki, but I'm willing to comb through some stats

ldssdl

11/13/19 9:24am

So, here's what I've surmised about the defense based on these important stats.

ldssdl

11/13/19 9:34am

RE: So, here's what I've surmised about the defense based on these important

Lip Gallagher

11/13/19 11:01am

Alright, I don’t have any stats to back up my last statement, but how else do

ldssdl

11/13/19 11:40am

I put inconsistency of effort on Kalani's shoulders, not Tuiaki's because

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 11:46am

You don't. It's frustrating, but you just don't.

Lip Gallagher

11/13/19 11:58am

Yep. And explosiveness goes both ways. A pick downfield is not as valuable

Ash

11/13/19 1:51pm

We're doing well in terms of preventing explosiveness and turnovers.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 9:37am

Turnovers are harder to control

Indy Coug

11/13/19 10:11am

That's what I said.

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 10:17am

Yeah, but turnovers are harder to control.

sah22

11/13/19 10:40am

The passing yards are often a direct result of the fact that the

oldrugger

11/13/19 10:39am

No, they don't. I have inside knowledge that coaches don't watch film, let alone

Genghis Spreads

11/13/19 11:17am

Liberty had 17 "chunk" plays and 5 "explosive" plays against BYU.

SpiffCoug

11/13/19 10:41am

These are excellent data that show one way that Tuiaki's defense is fool's gold.

ldssdl

11/13/19 10:50am

I have it on good authority that the O is to blame for our tired D.

hydrocoug

11/13/19 12:08pm

16 per game feels like a lot and confirms what many are seeing

D.T. Survivor

11/13/19 12:03pm

Last year we gave up 11.4 & 3.9. In 2017 those numbers were 12.3 & 3.9. And in 2016, 11.0 & 4.9

SpiffCoug

11/13/19 12:15pm

If you think Tuiaki is doing a good job, you are clueless.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/13/19 3:03pm

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