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Nov 19, 2019
10:55:11am

runnincoug All-American

so short-sighted!

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runnincoug

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Another XC signing for BYU

Joe Banks

11/19/19 7:51am

Personally I’d cut cross country as a sponsored program and make it club-

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 7:57am

You'd get rid of a sport where we're consistently in the top 5 in the country?

Jesse Pinkman

11/19/19 8:00am

I know- horrible- how many people go to these events? What’s it cost to run the

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:05am

We have won national championships in these sports.

Archaea

11/19/19 8:13am

No- just because we can doesn’t mean we should

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:17am

Olympic sports bring BYU international notoriety

Archaea

11/19/19 8:52am

What would happen to recruiting if we started broadcasting signing on BYUTV?

Q-grr

11/19/19 8:33am

I was on the BYU XC team and I can tell you they don't take much $ or resources. Drop in a bucket compared to most of

RUNBYU1

11/19/19 9:40am

Happily, Holmoe and Darger are both much more involved with XC these days.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 9:43am

The costs have to be ridiculously small compared to other sports

Jesse Pinkman

11/19/19 9:44am

Isn't this what happened with rugby? That sucked.

vagabonder

11/19/19 8:01am

That’s one I wish we brought back. That did stink

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:06am

No. Rugby has never been an NCAA sport. There are only a few schools that offer

molodyets

11/19/19 8:09am

Berkeley Rugby IS NCAA.

oldrugger

11/19/19 10:11am

No, because rugby is not a NCAA sport. It's always been a club sport, just

Iron Coug

11/19/19 8:09am

It doesn't, and that is a dumb take

Turd Ferguson

11/19/19 8:04am

You just a speaking with your heart and not your head

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:06am

I would be okay with cutting some mens programs for a mens soccer team. Womens

Iron Coug

11/19/19 8:08am

Men’s and women’s soccer are good investments

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:11am

For an international university, I'm surprised BYU doesn't have mens soccer

BYU Fan

11/19/19 8:14am

There was a scandal with a varsity team quite a few years back. BYU dropped

Q-grr

11/19/19 8:30am

Huh. I was mistaken. Forgive me. (Edited)

YSMACK

11/19/19 9:12am

I used to hear the same story. Maybe 35 yrs ago?

Joe Banks

11/19/19 9:17am

Maybe I'm wrong. Could be.

YSMACK

11/19/19 9:22am

Here is the Wikipedia article. I don’t really know any more than this.

Joe Banks

11/19/19 9:35am

Such a travesty that BYU has no men's soccer

teancum

11/19/19 10:22am

This is a no brainer to me too. This is the one sport that further's BYU's

Iron Coug

11/19/19 1:13pm

All you have to do is watch how the women pack them in

teancum

11/19/19 1:55pm

What a terrible take! I love football, but collegiate sports is about much more

runnincoug

11/19/19 8:20am

Really? What’s it about for cross country? How much should the school spend to

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:24am

Go to the next BYU Autumn Classic.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 8:31am

There is very little money going to these sports. Most of their schollies

runnincoug

11/19/19 8:39am

12.6 schollies for all of men's Track and XC.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 8:43am

Absolutely

Archaea

11/19/19 9:13am

We have had former Olympians such Frankie Fredericks and Jared Ward

Archaea

11/19/19 9:15am

See my post above. The school is putting very little effort in to XC comparatively.

RUNBYU1

11/19/19 9:41am

Well then if you were in charge BYU wouldn’t be able to play D1 football.

RdF3

11/19/19 8:21am

Oh brother- yes yes the rules- doesn’t change the facts- no one really cares its

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:25am

How much money are we talking about?

m0resn0w

11/19/19 11:18am

I doubt the program expends more than $250,000

Archaea

11/19/19 11:28am

No, you don't really care, but there are many who do. From your reasoning, BYU

BYU I Bleed Blue

11/19/19 11:32am

Men’s XC has to be about the cheapest sport out there for a school to run.

Joe Banks

11/19/19 8:22am

How much?

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:25am

How does it take away resources from FB?

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 8:25am

Where does the money come for these sports? Do the parents pay? Travel, coaching

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:26am

The Autumn Classic brings in money, but that's beside the point.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 8:41am

The coach is paid as a TRACK coach, the kids are all on TRACK scholarships. Very little travel. Etc.

RUNBYU1

11/19/19 9:43am

One of the few sports where the coach has three competitive seasons

Archaea

11/19/19 11:34am

If someone could be cut from CB and sent to a blog site....

Q-grr

11/19/19 8:27am

Ouch- )

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 8:35am

RE: Personally I’d cut cross country as a sponsored program and make it

Littlerich

11/19/19 9:05am

If we are making a list of sports to cut, X-country isn't close to the top.

DrBYU

11/19/19 9:05am

This!

RUNBYU1

11/19/19 9:44am

Women’s lacrosse, field hockey and crew

Archaea

11/19/19 11:33am

Plenty of other schools seem to manage having a good cross country team along

YoungOne

11/19/19 9:56am

Well that’s why we should cut a lot more than just that

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 9:57am

oh brother. I hope you realize that BYU has a very strong athletic department

Littlerich

11/19/19 10:17am

Oh Brother- I just don’t like waist if money with little return when it could go

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 10:55am

define return. Most XC athletes are paying for their education

Littlerich

11/19/19 11:00am

Most or all?

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 11:09am

Most pay for all of their education, a few pay for some

Littlerich

11/19/19 11:19am

In many ways, it returns more than any other sports program.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 11:13am

What benefit would BYU garner by cutting successful programs that cost little

Archaea

11/19/19 10:41am

so short-sighted!

runnincoug

11/19/19 10:55am

This is the most excited this board has every been for XC or anything else when

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 10:56am

You probably ignore our commentary

Archaea

11/19/19 11:02am

Family is strong- I’m glad you care about it. Wish you could get others to

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 11:38am

Who’s says I don’t and haven’t?

Archaea

11/19/19 11:42am

And you are a good fan. I just want football fans

Archaea

11/19/19 11:45am

I’m not a good fan- I see those programs as drains on the university. I know it

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 11:49am

I don’t see the minor expenditures to do anything but benefit the

Archaea

11/19/19 12:02pm

You’ve got tens of people who agree with you:) the only thing that supports my

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 12:05pm

I thought BYU was in the black... or are you talking about other schools??

byukarl

11/19/19 12:28pm

They are- we are discussing program individually and not the complete athletic d

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 12:55pm

Then by that logic cut women's basketball

byukarl

11/19/19 5:40pm

Oh so would dramatically cut that program as well

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 6:23pm

Then by that logic, football should be the only sport in college sports with the

YoungOne

11/19/19 1:32pm

We should also cut schollies to 3rd and 4th string FB players.

HomeTownHero

11/19/19 1:57pm

Oh... sorry - depth is needed- you just cut the last two QB’s who played for BYU

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 2:03pm

The 3rd and 4th stringers don't get it. It's for the good of the FB program...

YoungOne

11/19/19 2:18pm

Romney is a walk on, Wilson is 1st string.

ochobeeguy

11/19/19 2:48pm

Okay then no problem then- let’s cut them

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 2:57pm

Who said we would cut them. Just the scholarships.

ochobeeguy

11/19/19 3:30pm

Right! Are you going to tell them or me?

SouthernBlueBlood

11/19/19 3:41pm

Cross Country is part of track, so you just argued against yourself.

ochobeeguy

11/19/19 2:49pm

As to how strong this recruiting class is, Moss and Allred have both been ranked

Joe Banks

11/19/19 10:09am

And the women’s signings are even more highly regarded.

Archaea

11/19/19 11:03am

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