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May 13, 2020
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icecougar
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ooh disagree. it's not a hard argument for Kareem to be #2 ahead of Lebron
...and I like Duncan a lot and have never been a Kareem.
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Do you agree? GOAT list from ESPN:
Vincent's Picks
5/13/20 9:47am
Magic overrated?
Squirt
5/13/20 9:48am
I think so... his charisma earns him extra points it seems
runnincoug
5/13/20 9:54am
No. He was incredible.
SoCalCoug
5/13/20 10:04am
Magic never gets penalized for "injuries" but others do
Cougforgood
5/13/20 10:06am
Shaq over Kobe
Josef K
5/13/20 9:50am
Yes, I'd go 1, 3, 2, 10 (Shaq), 6, 5, 7, 8, 9, 4
Benfica1
5/13/20 10:35am
You open Pandora’s box when you use that as your logic.
StalwartBraveTrue
5/13/20 11:46am
Jerry West was a better player than Kobe
AZ Coug
5/13/20 9:52am
Yep, no way Kobe is top 10, but Jerry might be.
CopperLix
5/13/20 9:59am
A lot of people opining on this who never saw Jerry West play
AZ Coug
5/13/20 10:02am
A lot of people opining on this who hate Kobe.
SoCalCoug
5/13/20 10:05am
I think a lot of it has to do with questioning how good west would be today
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 10:08am
By that standard, I guess Barry Bonds wasn't a top-30 baseball player
AZ Coug
5/13/20 10:26am
Maybe, I’m just saying he played in the 60’s. Not a lot of people saw him play
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 11:19am
Starting to cherry pick.
StalwartBraveTrue
5/13/20 11:53am
Yeah but if Kobe grew up in the era that West did, how would his game be..
icecougar
5/13/20 1:16pm
I’m just stating why people consider Kobe better than West
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 1:56pm
Jerry West would say Kobe was better than him
Str8CashCougar
5/13/20 11:30am
He would also say Shaq and Elgin Baylor were better than him
AZ Coug
5/13/20 11:34am
of course he would, that's the kind of guy he is and speaks to the era he came..
icecougar
5/13/20 1:19pm
West was 6'2" with a 6'9" wingspan and its said that his intensity...
icecougar
5/13/20 2:19pm
It is certainly reasonable to put Duncan and Kobe ahead of Shaq but I think peak
Charles Darwin
5/13/20 9:52am
I'd move Shaq to 8.
TheLoneCougar
5/13/20 9:53am
I agree with 1 and 2. Whatever after that.
Cougarmayn
5/13/20 9:55am
It’s crazy how many played for the Lakers. 6/10
Big Daddy D
5/13/20 9:56am
Good to see Duncan on the list. The guy was very good, but didn’t do it with
Corn Pop
5/13/20 9:56am
Who in the league now has the best chance of getting into the top 10?
Charles Darwin
5/13/20 9:58am
Depends on what we value when determining the rankings
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 10:05am
Russell and Wilt are the hardest guys to rank for me
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 9:59am
I was about to say the same thing about Russell
CaliWG
5/13/20 10:07am
Russell shot 44% from the field. That is terrible for a Center.
Jdoc
5/13/20 10:16am
Also played when there were only 10 teams in the league - easier to get a ring.
Benfica1
5/13/20 10:37am
Yep, all these things are why Russell is hard to rate historically.
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 11:27am
To do time machine you’d need to give him time to be raised
StalwartBraveTrue
5/13/20 12:55pm
Sure, but it’s hard to envision what Russell would be today.
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 2:02pm
but would he be a poor offensive player growing up in an era that LOVES to...
icecougar
5/13/20 2:11pm
Impossible to know the answers to those questions.
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 3:03pm
Agree. It’s an impossible exercise. Same goes for all players who played
StalwartBraveTrue
5/13/20 3:15pm
cream rises to the top...
icecougar
5/15/20 11:08am
Imagine Shaq back then with 10 teams and the next closest center 75lbs lighter
cougsnhoosiers
5/13/20 12:26pm
you'd have a less athletic version of Wilt
icecougar
5/13/20 2:13pm
RE: Russell and Wilt are the hardest guys to rank for me
porl thompson
5/13/20 12:55pm
Ya I think it’s just hard to know how good those opponents were
PHXSUNS31
5/13/20 2:07pm
talent level was lower which deflated Wilt's skill development growing up...
icecougar
5/13/20 2:03pm
Russell too high...Wilt too low.
HootnHoller
5/14/20 9:13am
Wilt seems low.
SpiffCoug
5/13/20 10:39am
I agree. It they widen the paint to slow you down you probably
StalwartBraveTrue
5/13/20 12:03pm
Pretty good
Forzaitalia
5/13/20 11:58am
If I were starting a team... I'd pick Duncan over Magic... and maybe even Duncan over Jabbar
HarlemCoug
5/13/20 1:17pm
Did you ever see Jabbar play? (in his prime)
AZ Coug
5/13/20 1:20pm
Jabbar is the clear #3. There's a gap after him. Top 3 are correct and #4 is or
rcbyufan
5/13/20 1:27pm
I saw him play - I think Jabbar played against significantly inferior competition.
HarlemCoug
5/13/20 3:44pm
I beg to differ. the 5s in Jabbar's era were bigger and better than today
AZ Coug
5/13/20 4:20pm
There’s just not much use for those types of guys in today’s game.
PHXSUNS31
5/14/20 9:35am
There aren't any skilled big men in the league like those guys
AZ Coug
5/14/20 9:46am
They’re skilled in different ways today
PHXSUNS31
5/14/20 10:01am
This is exactly right
cougsnhoosiers
5/14/20 4:00pm
You must have not seen Jabbar play, especially in his prime.
Jdoc
5/13/20 2:09pm
ooh disagree. it's not a hard argument for Kareem to be #2 ahead of Lebron
icecougar
5/13/20 2:21pm
Russell is too high...great player but not top 5 despite all the rings
Hang10
5/13/20 2:30pm
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