The onus is on you to explain why most scientists and rational observers do not

May 11, 2021
7:25:35pm

valleus All-American

share your conclusions. What justifies your confidence that your conclusion is correct and the majority of scientists are wrong?

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How would you react if you knew a foreign government or military had developed

Backcountry

5/10/21 12:55pm

Like TikTok?

Sea Chicken

5/10/21 12:56pm

Link to the Navy and DOD acknowledging this tech?

GilaHank

5/10/21 1:04pm

What is this tech you are talking about? Or, rather, where is evidence or rumor

squidmark

5/10/21 1:07pm

No. Why couldn’t we just hack and steal it.

valleus

5/10/21 1:07pm

We've done it once and we'll do it again

Gustav

5/10/21 1:33pm

I would welcome gravitational propulsion. That would change our species forever.

Tesla Coug

5/10/21 1:08pm

My reaction: "I told you so."

bluesloth

5/10/21 1:09pm

RE: How would you react if you knew a foreign government or military had

TheHop

5/10/21 1:13pm

If the DoD actually believed that then there would be an enormous vacuum of PhDs

Defenestrator

5/10/21 1:17pm

Do you believe it is all a fabrication?

Backcountry

5/10/21 6:22pm

Do I consider what a fabrication? All you presented is a hypothetical.

Defenestrator

5/10/21 8:05pm

No. The DoD has admitted exactly what I claimed.

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:01pm

Link?

bluesloth

5/10/21 9:08pm

Start here

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:21pm

Anything from the DoD?

bluesloth

5/10/21 9:23pm

Start with the man who ran the department in the DoD who studied these things.

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:26pm

A YouTube video of a former employee is far from the DoD making a statement.

bluesloth

5/10/21 9:28pm

Heres a link to a NYT article.

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:37pm

If you want to claim the DoD admits something link the primary source.

Defenestrator

5/10/21 9:25pm

You kill me. Is Elizondo a fraud?

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:27pm

We are talking about the DoD not Elizondo.

Defenestrator

5/10/21 9:42pm

Who do you think he is? He is literally the DoD expert on this subject.

Backcountry

5/10/21 9:54pm

So link to the official statement

Defenestrator

5/10/21 10:06pm

Ive provided many. For a guy who sees himself as a scientist, you arent very

Backcountry

5/10/21 10:08pm

Personal interviews are not official DoD statements.

Defenestrator

5/10/21 10:19pm

Are you looking for the secretary of defense to personally make a statement on

Backcountry

5/10/21 10:30pm

No. I am looking for you to provide a DoD statement that admits to exactly what

Defenestrator

5/10/21 10:38pm

You're being obtuse. Look up interviews by Daniel Ratcliffe, Christopher Mellon,

Backcountry

5/10/21 10:51pm

No, I'm asking to you to substantiate your claim. Don't write checks for the DoD

Defenestrator

5/10/21 10:57pm

And im asking you to dive into the publicly available information on this issue

Backcountry

5/10/21 11:02pm

Nope, this started with you trying to put words in the DoD's mouth.

Defenestrator

5/10/21 11:11pm

Louis Elizondo, the man who ran the DoD investigation into UAPs, has on

Backcountry

5/10/21 11:17pm

Look into it. Do a deep dive. Dig up interviews with the individuals i mentioned

Backcountry

5/10/21 11:19pm

Him *personally* drawing those conclusions is not the DoD as a whole drawing

Defenestrator

5/11/21 8:29am

You waiting for Lloyd Austin to tell you himself? Biden?

Backcountry

5/11/21 8:37am

As I've said multiple times, I'm waiting for something from the actual DoD, not

Defenestrator

5/11/21 9:25am

The gofast video isn't bulletproof. Most people admit that. Even Christopher

Backcountry

5/11/21 10:27am

By "isn't bulletproof" do you mean "not actually going fast?"

Defenestrator

5/11/21 5:15pm

Mick Wests gofast debunking has been debunked. He used incorrect data in his

Backcountry

6/6/21 1:27pm

Your links are not persuasive evidence. At present no concrete evidence exists.

valleus

5/10/21 10:24pm

The evidence is abundant. It conflicts with traditional understanding and

Backcountry

5/10/21 10:32pm

The onus is on you to explain why most scientists and rational observers do not

valleus

5/11/21 7:25pm

I dont believe "mist scientists and rationale observers" have legitimately

Backcountry

5/11/21 7:40pm

RE: How would you react if you knew a foreign government or military had

joelvandyne

5/10/21 1:19pm

RE: How would you react if you knew a foreign government or military had

bluesloth

5/10/21 1:57pm

When does the govt report on all the tic tac stuff come out. I thought we were

nc-puma

5/10/21 1:56pm

The propulsion system would be awesome. The guns - NBD - they don't improve

jvquarterback

5/10/21 2:05pm

I don't think Russia or China are remotely close to this. Its all fluff.

Millhouse

5/10/21 3:35pm

I almost forgot. China's new military islands are sinking back into the sea.

Millhouse

5/10/21 3:41pm

These craft have been observed. If not US, Chinese, or Russians, who do they

Backcountry

5/10/21 6:19pm

I agree with Zastava

Millhouse

5/10/21 6:23pm

I don’t know but I have been a discussion about the huge advancement in military

Nat Gas Man

5/10/21 6:27pm

If the DoD videos truly depict a quantum leap in technological capability...

Zastava

5/10/21 3:36pm

I agree with your conclusions. American or ET.

Backcountry

5/10/21 6:20pm

Aurora

Nat Gas Man

5/10/21 4:53pm

I don't think our hardware is deficient, I think much of our leadership is, and

BleedCougarBlue2

5/10/21 8:08pm

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