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Jul 22, 2021
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shimmy
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True. Byu not gonna make it ever, but because of BYU policies, not church policies.
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I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church stance
BYURider
7/21/21 11:40pm
It think it's because our underwear isn't buttery smooth enough.
zonacougar
7/21/21 11:45pm
RE: I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church
StalwartBraveTrue
7/21/21 11:49pm
Ehhhh Money rules all. National fan base, and consistant revenue.
carcoug
7/22/21 12:08am
Never underestimate the power of cancel culture by these types:
Coug Man in Florida
7/22/21 12:33am
Funny thing is, those who voice their opinion often don’t even participate in
Powerbait DPM
7/22/21 6:46am
Exactly
Coug Man in Florida
7/22/21 6:08pm
You realize that most gay people are normal and nothing like this meme right?
Honor Code
7/22/21 7:50am
I'm sure he does, but those aren't the people trying to cancel everyone.
Ungoy
7/22/21 8:18am
Yes, but they are also not the types who are loud and make a big stink about
zonacougar
7/22/21 9:13am
Yup. I said cancel-culture types which is exactly who I depicted.
Coug Man in Florida
7/22/21 6:01pm
If that were true we’d be in the PAC 12
braddahmike
7/22/21 12:49am
We talk about that, but don't deliver
krindorr
7/22/21 5:50am
Ah, there's the truth.
coolblue
7/22/21 9:22am
Power rules all. Money just facilitates power. See pre-existence.
coolblue
7/22/21 9:20am
That's depressing. I actually fear that rather than employers boycotting BYU graduates,...
Brisco
7/22/21 12:10am
What does that really mean? Seems meaningless for all practical purposes if it
Colorado
7/22/21 12:34am
Losing accreditation mostly affects federal student aid programs.
zsmooth
7/22/21 6:25am
Little impact on any in a job in desired career path. Some new graduates...
NYC and Japan
7/22/21 9:39am
Try getting into grad school with a degree from a non-accredited university.
Zastava
7/22/21 10:26am
Considering BYU is one of the top suppliers to grad programs, I doubt losing
Colorado
7/22/21 10:30am
If they don’t make meaningful change in a number of areas, I think that’s a very
Zastava
7/22/21 9:52am
Social issues and geography. We might have made another conference had we been
ColonelMustard
7/22/21 12:15am
I agree that BYU is P5 worthy. But BYU is not ineligible
TFL
7/22/21 12:16am
We underestimate how insanely difficult it is to get a P5 invite
krindorr
7/22/21 6:03am
This is true. We haven’t been good enough at the right time
Blue2thebone
7/22/21 7:25am
Totally agree
TFL
7/22/21 10:43am
Now do Rutgers.
DiamondMo
7/22/21 7:58am
Rutgers is N/A in this argument because they're already in. They suck but that's
BleedCougarBlue2
7/22/21 9:17am
Rutgers was already in an AQ, but since you asked...
krindorr
7/22/21 10:27am
True. Byu not gonna make it ever, but because of BYU policies, not church policies.
shimmy
7/22/21 12:55am
I don’t see your second statement happening. At least in the business world,
BYU-Ite
7/22/21 1:45am
Or we don’t have an elite anything that regularly shows up on ESPN.
Blue Cat
7/22/21 2:08am
Men’s football and basketball are really all that matter. We’re better than
chitownboy
7/22/21 7:03am
The OP suggested we were better than 2/3 of P5 all around
Blue Cat
7/22/21 7:51am
You’re using a measure of top 10 finishes and sweet 16 as if those are what
chitownboy
7/22/21 11:43am
I’m using that as a marker of having elite seasons
Blue Cat
7/22/21 11:56am
And I´m fine with that.
Sooner Cougar
7/22/21 2:29am
youd also be fine if byu changed said policies
Deleted
7/22/21 6:44am
No I would not. Church > BYU > BYU Athletics
Sooner Cougar
7/22/21 9:05am
Of course this is true. There are multiple issues
johnnycarson
7/22/21 5:16am
If true then I’m fine with never joining a P5… but I don’t totally buy it.
Ned Schneebly
7/22/21 7:39am
Agree completely; it's a factor but not the only reason
krindorr
7/22/21 10:29am
You underestimate BYU graduates' resumes, character, work ethic, etc. There are
BYU I Bleed Blue
7/22/21 7:43am
Except that BYU has a huge fanbase, great facilities, solid teams throughout
cougarnw
7/22/21 8:45am
BYU will never be invited until they soften the language on gays. That may not sit well, but it’s the truth
Honor Code
7/22/21 10:29am
About that huge fanbase....
krindorr
7/22/21 10:31am
I agree that Woke academia may well prevent BYU inclusion in any P5. Employment
Forzaitalia
7/22/21 8:46am
Look around. What, exactly, is currently limiting the woke crowd?
BleedCougarBlue2
7/22/21 9:21am
Agreed. BYU won’t be in a major conference until the LDS Church…
Zastava
7/22/21 9:24am
Maybe the biggest draw to being in a P5 is the increased chance at the playoff,
1CougFan
7/22/21 11:13am
that assumes the Church won't change in the future
run26
7/22/21 12:22pm
I dont see the church, and thus BYU, changing on the
BYURider
7/22/21 1:04pm
In 1966 Darius Gray (black) was told he couldn't attend if he dated a white girl
krindorr
7/22/21 1:19pm
I think it will eventually have to. Otherwise BYU will risk losing its…
Zastava
7/22/21 1:39pm
So will the church some day allow fornication? adultery?, drop the WoW?
BYURider
7/22/21 1:49pm
Probably not fornication or adultery. My guess is the same rules that have…
Zastava
7/22/21 2:09pm
I don't see same sex marriage ever being allowed under any circumstance. I think
BYURider
7/22/21 5:05pm
I think it will definitely happen. Current leadership would probably never…
Zastava
7/22/21 5:41pm
let me re-phrase...I don't ever see God signing off on it.
BYURider
7/22/21 7:17pm
I’m not convinced the god of the entire universe, should he/she/it/they exist…
Zastava
7/22/21 7:38pm
no, it's not
BYURider
7/22/21 7:42pm
Um no. Sexual sins are very serious. God does care. The world will slip
chitownboy
7/22/21 8:40pm
Yeah. Not convinced.
Zastava
7/22/21 8:58pm
You must not believe in the scriptures. Open those up and tell me that
chitownboy
7/23/21 6:15am
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run26
7/22/21 9:06pm
Nice. Did I just get deleted on a BYU board for agreeing with the laws of God
chitownboy
7/23/21 6:17am
I’ve heard people make this argument before. I’m not gonna say it can’t happen
Colorado
7/22/21 5:06pm
Plural marriage was absolutely fundamental to the Saints during Brigham…
Zastava
7/22/21 5:52pm
When God commands....point still holds.
Colorado
7/22/21 6:07pm
“The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter…
Zastava
7/22/21 6:58pm
To me, that polygamy quote doesn’t say anything about when the men lived so
Colorado
7/22/21 10:23pm
I also think the 2nd coming is more likely to happen before that happens but
Colorado
7/22/21 10:25pm
I agree with them. Polygamous marriages would be quite “exhausting” if you get
Coug Man in Florida
7/22/21 6:59pm
1st presidency stated (numerous times) that interracial marriage was contrary
krindorr
7/22/21 6:36pm
Almost all of their College Presidents drink Coffee and or Coke.
ochobeeguy
7/22/21 12:36pm
Right, because BAYLOR, TCU, SMU, and NOTRE DAME are secular.
LEDSFW
7/22/21 12:58pm
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