I’m using that as a marker of having elite seasons

Jul 22, 2021
11:56:43am

Blue Cat All-American

P5 teams generally have far more elite seasons in the major sports.

BYU has very good athletic program. But being reliably good, but never great doesn’t really move the needle in terms of desirability.

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I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church stance

BYURider

7/21/21 11:40pm

It think it's because our underwear isn't buttery smooth enough.

zonacougar

7/21/21 11:45pm

RE: I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church

StalwartBraveTrue

7/21/21 11:49pm

Ehhhh Money rules all. National fan base, and consistant revenue.

carcoug

7/22/21 12:08am

Never underestimate the power of cancel culture by these types:

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 12:33am

Funny thing is, those who voice their opinion often don’t even participate in

Powerbait DPM

7/22/21 6:46am

Exactly

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:08pm

You realize that most gay people are normal and nothing like this meme right?

Honor Code

7/22/21 7:50am

I'm sure he does, but those aren't the people trying to cancel everyone.

Ungoy

7/22/21 8:18am

Yes, but they are also not the types who are loud and make a big stink about

zonacougar

7/22/21 9:13am

Yup. I said cancel-culture types which is exactly who I depicted.

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:01pm

If that were true we’d be in the PAC 12

braddahmike

7/22/21 12:49am

We talk about that, but don't deliver

krindorr

7/22/21 5:50am

Ah, there's the truth.

coolblue

7/22/21 9:22am

Power rules all. Money just facilitates power. See pre-existence.

coolblue

7/22/21 9:20am

That's depressing. I actually fear that rather than employers boycotting BYU graduates,...

Brisco

7/22/21 12:10am

What does that really mean? Seems meaningless for all practical purposes if it

Colorado

7/22/21 12:34am

Losing accreditation mostly affects federal student aid programs.

zsmooth

7/22/21 6:25am

Little impact on any in a job in desired career path. Some new graduates...

NYC and Japan

7/22/21 9:39am

Try getting into grad school with a degree from a non-accredited university.

Zastava

7/22/21 10:26am

Considering BYU is one of the top suppliers to grad programs, I doubt losing

Colorado

7/22/21 10:30am

If they don’t make meaningful change in a number of areas, I think that’s a very

Zastava

7/22/21 9:52am

Social issues and geography. We might have made another conference had we been

ColonelMustard

7/22/21 12:15am

I agree that BYU is P5 worthy. But BYU is not ineligible

TFL

7/22/21 12:16am

We underestimate how insanely difficult it is to get a P5 invite

krindorr

7/22/21 6:03am

This is true. We haven’t been good enough at the right time

Blue2thebone

7/22/21 7:25am

Totally agree

TFL

7/22/21 10:43am

Now do Rutgers.

DiamondMo

7/22/21 7:58am

Rutgers is N/A in this argument because they're already in. They suck but that's

BleedCougarBlue2

7/22/21 9:17am

Rutgers was already in an AQ, but since you asked...

krindorr

7/22/21 10:27am

True. Byu not gonna make it ever, but because of BYU policies, not church policies.

shimmy

7/22/21 12:55am

I don’t see your second statement happening. At least in the business world,

BYU-Ite

7/22/21 1:45am

Or we don’t have an elite anything that regularly shows up on ESPN.

Blue Cat

7/22/21 2:08am

Men’s football and basketball are really all that matter. We’re better than

chitownboy

7/22/21 7:03am

The OP suggested we were better than 2/3 of P5 all around

Blue Cat

7/22/21 7:51am

You’re using a measure of top 10 finishes and sweet 16 as if those are what

chitownboy

7/22/21 11:43am

I’m using that as a marker of having elite seasons

Blue Cat

7/22/21 11:56am

And I´m fine with that.

Sooner Cougar

7/22/21 2:29am

youd also be fine if byu changed said policies

Deleted

7/22/21 6:44am

No I would not. Church > BYU > BYU Athletics

Sooner Cougar

7/22/21 9:05am

Of course this is true. There are multiple issues

johnnycarson

7/22/21 5:16am

If true then I’m fine with never joining a P5… but I don’t totally buy it.

Ned Schneebly

7/22/21 7:39am

Agree completely; it's a factor but not the only reason

krindorr

7/22/21 10:29am

You underestimate BYU graduates' resumes, character, work ethic, etc. There are

BYU I Bleed Blue

7/22/21 7:43am

Except that BYU has a huge fanbase, great facilities, solid teams throughout

cougarnw

7/22/21 8:45am

BYU will never be invited until they soften the language on gays. That may not sit well, but it’s the truth

Honor Code

7/22/21 10:29am

About that huge fanbase....

krindorr

7/22/21 10:31am

I agree that Woke academia may well prevent BYU inclusion in any P5. Employment

Forzaitalia

7/22/21 8:46am

Look around. What, exactly, is currently limiting the woke crowd?

BleedCougarBlue2

7/22/21 9:21am

Agreed. BYU won’t be in a major conference until the LDS Church…

Zastava

7/22/21 9:24am

Maybe the biggest draw to being in a P5 is the increased chance at the playoff,

1CougFan

7/22/21 11:13am

that assumes the Church won't change in the future

run26

7/22/21 12:22pm

I dont see the church, and thus BYU, changing on the

BYURider

7/22/21 1:04pm

In 1966 Darius Gray (black) was told he couldn't attend if he dated a white girl

krindorr

7/22/21 1:19pm

I think it will eventually have to. Otherwise BYU will risk losing its…

Zastava

7/22/21 1:39pm

So will the church some day allow fornication? adultery?, drop the WoW?

BYURider

7/22/21 1:49pm

Probably not fornication or adultery. My guess is the same rules that have…

Zastava

7/22/21 2:09pm

I don't see same sex marriage ever being allowed under any circumstance. I think

BYURider

7/22/21 5:05pm

I think it will definitely happen. Current leadership would probably never…

Zastava

7/22/21 5:41pm

let me re-phrase...I don't ever see God signing off on it.

BYURider

7/22/21 7:17pm

I’m not convinced the god of the entire universe, should he/she/it/they exist…

Zastava

7/22/21 7:38pm

no, it's not

BYURider

7/22/21 7:42pm

Um no. Sexual sins are very serious. God does care. The world will slip

chitownboy

7/22/21 8:40pm

Yeah. Not convinced.

Zastava

7/22/21 8:58pm

You must not believe in the scriptures. Open those up and tell me that

chitownboy

7/23/21 6:15am

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run26

7/22/21 9:06pm

Nice. Did I just get deleted on a BYU board for agreeing with the laws of God

chitownboy

7/23/21 6:17am

I’ve heard people make this argument before. I’m not gonna say it can’t happen

Colorado

7/22/21 5:06pm

Plural marriage was absolutely fundamental to the Saints during Brigham…

Zastava

7/22/21 5:52pm

When God commands....point still holds.

Colorado

7/22/21 6:07pm

“The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter…

Zastava

7/22/21 6:58pm

To me, that polygamy quote doesn’t say anything about when the men lived so

Colorado

7/22/21 10:23pm

I also think the 2nd coming is more likely to happen before that happens but

Colorado

7/22/21 10:25pm

I agree with them. Polygamous marriages would be quite “exhausting” if you get

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:59pm

1st presidency stated (numerous times) that interracial marriage was contrary

krindorr

7/22/21 6:36pm

Almost all of their College Presidents drink Coffee and or Coke.

ochobeeguy

7/22/21 12:36pm

Right, because BAYLOR, TCU, SMU, and NOTRE DAME are secular.

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