I dont see the church, and thus BYU, changing on the

Jul 22, 2021
1:04:24pm

BYURider All-American

same gender marriage/relationship thing. A gay couple cannot walk around campus holding hands. I dont know if that's the case at those other schools.

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I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church stance

BYURider

7/21/21 11:40pm

It think it's because our underwear isn't buttery smooth enough.

zonacougar

7/21/21 11:45pm

RE: I think BYU will never be in a P5 conference because of the LDS's church

StalwartBraveTrue

7/21/21 11:49pm

Ehhhh Money rules all. National fan base, and consistant revenue.

carcoug

7/22/21 12:08am

Never underestimate the power of cancel culture by these types:

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 12:33am

Funny thing is, those who voice their opinion often don’t even participate in

Powerbait DPM

7/22/21 6:46am

Exactly

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:08pm

You realize that most gay people are normal and nothing like this meme right?

Honor Code

7/22/21 7:50am

I'm sure he does, but those aren't the people trying to cancel everyone.

Ungoy

7/22/21 8:18am

Yes, but they are also not the types who are loud and make a big stink about

zonacougar

7/22/21 9:13am

Yup. I said cancel-culture types which is exactly who I depicted.

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:01pm

If that were true we’d be in the PAC 12

braddahmike

7/22/21 12:49am

We talk about that, but don't deliver

krindorr

7/22/21 5:50am

Ah, there's the truth.

coolblue

7/22/21 9:22am

Power rules all. Money just facilitates power. See pre-existence.

coolblue

7/22/21 9:20am

That's depressing. I actually fear that rather than employers boycotting BYU graduates,...

Brisco

7/22/21 12:10am

What does that really mean? Seems meaningless for all practical purposes if it

Colorado

7/22/21 12:34am

Losing accreditation mostly affects federal student aid programs.

zsmooth

7/22/21 6:25am

Little impact on any in a job in desired career path. Some new graduates...

NYC and Japan

7/22/21 9:39am

Try getting into grad school with a degree from a non-accredited university.

Zastava

7/22/21 10:26am

Considering BYU is one of the top suppliers to grad programs, I doubt losing

Colorado

7/22/21 10:30am

If they don’t make meaningful change in a number of areas, I think that’s a very

Zastava

7/22/21 9:52am

Social issues and geography. We might have made another conference had we been

ColonelMustard

7/22/21 12:15am

I agree that BYU is P5 worthy. But BYU is not ineligible

TFL

7/22/21 12:16am

We underestimate how insanely difficult it is to get a P5 invite

krindorr

7/22/21 6:03am

This is true. We haven’t been good enough at the right time

Blue2thebone

7/22/21 7:25am

Totally agree

TFL

7/22/21 10:43am

Now do Rutgers.

DiamondMo

7/22/21 7:58am

Rutgers is N/A in this argument because they're already in. They suck but that's

BleedCougarBlue2

7/22/21 9:17am

Rutgers was already in an AQ, but since you asked...

krindorr

7/22/21 10:27am

True. Byu not gonna make it ever, but because of BYU policies, not church policies.

shimmy

7/22/21 12:55am

I don’t see your second statement happening. At least in the business world,

BYU-Ite

7/22/21 1:45am

Or we don’t have an elite anything that regularly shows up on ESPN.

Blue Cat

7/22/21 2:08am

Men’s football and basketball are really all that matter. We’re better than

chitownboy

7/22/21 7:03am

The OP suggested we were better than 2/3 of P5 all around

Blue Cat

7/22/21 7:51am

You’re using a measure of top 10 finishes and sweet 16 as if those are what

chitownboy

7/22/21 11:43am

I’m using that as a marker of having elite seasons

Blue Cat

7/22/21 11:56am

And I´m fine with that.

Sooner Cougar

7/22/21 2:29am

youd also be fine if byu changed said policies

Deleted

7/22/21 6:44am

No I would not. Church > BYU > BYU Athletics

Sooner Cougar

7/22/21 9:05am

Of course this is true. There are multiple issues

johnnycarson

7/22/21 5:16am

If true then I’m fine with never joining a P5… but I don’t totally buy it.

Ned Schneebly

7/22/21 7:39am

Agree completely; it's a factor but not the only reason

krindorr

7/22/21 10:29am

You underestimate BYU graduates' resumes, character, work ethic, etc. There are

BYU I Bleed Blue

7/22/21 7:43am

Except that BYU has a huge fanbase, great facilities, solid teams throughout

cougarnw

7/22/21 8:45am

BYU will never be invited until they soften the language on gays. That may not sit well, but it’s the truth

Honor Code

7/22/21 10:29am

About that huge fanbase....

krindorr

7/22/21 10:31am

I agree that Woke academia may well prevent BYU inclusion in any P5. Employment

Forzaitalia

7/22/21 8:46am

Look around. What, exactly, is currently limiting the woke crowd?

BleedCougarBlue2

7/22/21 9:21am

Agreed. BYU won’t be in a major conference until the LDS Church…

Zastava

7/22/21 9:24am

Maybe the biggest draw to being in a P5 is the increased chance at the playoff,

1CougFan

7/22/21 11:13am

that assumes the Church won't change in the future

run26

7/22/21 12:22pm

I dont see the church, and thus BYU, changing on the

BYURider

7/22/21 1:04pm

In 1966 Darius Gray (black) was told he couldn't attend if he dated a white girl

krindorr

7/22/21 1:19pm

I think it will eventually have to. Otherwise BYU will risk losing its…

Zastava

7/22/21 1:39pm

So will the church some day allow fornication? adultery?, drop the WoW?

BYURider

7/22/21 1:49pm

Probably not fornication or adultery. My guess is the same rules that have…

Zastava

7/22/21 2:09pm

I don't see same sex marriage ever being allowed under any circumstance. I think

BYURider

7/22/21 5:05pm

I think it will definitely happen. Current leadership would probably never…

Zastava

7/22/21 5:41pm

let me re-phrase...I don't ever see God signing off on it.

BYURider

7/22/21 7:17pm

I’m not convinced the god of the entire universe, should he/she/it/they exist…

Zastava

7/22/21 7:38pm

no, it's not

BYURider

7/22/21 7:42pm

Um no. Sexual sins are very serious. God does care. The world will slip

chitownboy

7/22/21 8:40pm

Yeah. Not convinced.

Zastava

7/22/21 8:58pm

You must not believe in the scriptures. Open those up and tell me that

chitownboy

7/23/21 6:15am

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run26

7/22/21 9:06pm

Nice. Did I just get deleted on a BYU board for agreeing with the laws of God

chitownboy

7/23/21 6:17am

I’ve heard people make this argument before. I’m not gonna say it can’t happen

Colorado

7/22/21 5:06pm

Plural marriage was absolutely fundamental to the Saints during Brigham…

Zastava

7/22/21 5:52pm

When God commands....point still holds.

Colorado

7/22/21 6:07pm

“The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter…

Zastava

7/22/21 6:58pm

To me, that polygamy quote doesn’t say anything about when the men lived so

Colorado

7/22/21 10:23pm

I also think the 2nd coming is more likely to happen before that happens but

Colorado

7/22/21 10:25pm

I agree with them. Polygamous marriages would be quite “exhausting” if you get

Coug Man in Florida

7/22/21 6:59pm

1st presidency stated (numerous times) that interracial marriage was contrary

krindorr

7/22/21 6:36pm

Almost all of their College Presidents drink Coffee and or Coke.

ochobeeguy

7/22/21 12:36pm

Right, because BAYLOR, TCU, SMU, and NOTRE DAME are secular.

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