Yes... yes they do.

Sep 20, 2017
9:18:40am

tarzan15 All-American

Yes... yes they do.

Take a look at this cell phone data plan from Mexico (where net neutrality doesn't exist).

Do you notice that you have to pay additional money to get access to instagram? Its not just pirating websites that will be affected.

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Net neutrality is great for poor college kids, bad for everyone else

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:21am

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cvd6262

9/20/17 7:27am

So you'd be ok if your ISP charged you more for watching Netflix?

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 7:30am

They don't. The free market would have Netflix ensure they streamed fast

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:33am

Until each of those services make deals with individual ISPs to throttle all the

Defenestrator

9/20/17 7:36am

If it was that bad a new or emerging competitor would show up

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:38am

See Mike Hancho's reply below.

Defenestrator

9/20/17 7:41am

How? Using what infrastructure? That's like saying if your water company started

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 7:41am

The horseless carriage was nuts as well with the lack of infrastructure

jrifkin48

9/20/17 8:04am

Exactly Net Neutrality ensures the internet remains like the system of roads.

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:13am

Sure, wireless may be easier from an infrastructure standpoint - relatively

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 8:17am

He will just say that new wireless companies will emerge, nevermind the finite

Defenestrator

9/20/17 8:58am

Cars? The government builds, maintains, and regulates the infrastructure

Nathanael Greene

9/20/17 8:17am

Yep. It proves the opposite point.

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:20am

Internet service is not truly a free market. How many ISPs can you choose from

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 7:36am

Exactly! That is one of the reasons we need net Neutrality. It helps keep things

BYUtka

9/20/17 7:41am

It also imposes major regulatory burdens that keep smaller ISPs from emerging

fbguru

9/20/17 7:55am

They are fine with big ISPs. They are just worried about shady websites

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:57am

I have no interest in shady websites. I have interest in not paying more to

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:03am

RE: They are fine with big ISPs. They are just worried about shady websites

Defenestrator

9/20/17 8:11am

Or they're cord cutters worried about paying an arm and a leg to watch TV

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 8:21am

Some examples? In what way does it do this?

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:00am

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SLC-Warrior

9/20/17 8:11am

The internet may need regulation to actually make it free.

Baron

9/20/17 8:16am

Sadly life isn't that simple. Free Market would be best, but you cannot just

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:20am

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SLC-Warrior

9/20/17 8:23am

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JuicyJam

9/20/17 8:25am

Yes... yes they do.

tarzan15

9/20/17 9:18am

There are plenty of legitimate uses for bit torrent

Defenestrator

9/20/17 7:31am

I'm not in favor of net neutrality, but your reasoning is suspect.

fbguru

9/20/17 7:33am

This article shows the reason I am not for net neutrality

fbguru

9/20/17 7:47am

That article doesn't cite any ways it would hurt them outside 'it would take

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:11am

There may be flaws in implementation, sure. But the theory behind it is good

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 8:26am

Netflix streaming might have never existed without it

Hsaru

9/20/17 7:39am

That could be. It's a better argument than those who want their pirate websites

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:42am

Netflix streaming was well established long before Net Neutrality.

Cachanilla83

9/20/17 10:03am

Except when your ISP decides to create a competing service to Netflix

mottman

9/20/17 7:42am

To their own detriment. Something would emerge to offer a better product

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:48am

And how would you use it when your local Internet Monopoly throttles it?

mottman

9/20/17 7:50am

I have 5 options for ISPs where I live. I can leverage the competition

jrifkin48

9/20/17 7:52am

Ah lucky you. Not everyone is so fortunate.

mottman

9/20/17 8:25am

You are fine, so forget about everyone else. No hurricane here, so Houston

BYUtka

9/20/17 8:28am

Couldn't you have the regulation only apply where there is no competition? Why

rcbyufan

9/20/17 9:26am

Even in areas with a few more choices, there is no real open competition. And

BYUtka

9/20/17 10:07am

Take a look at this, then

Mike Honcho

9/20/17 8:32am

We don't live in 2010. We live in 2017. There can't be throttling of Netflix.

fbguru

9/20/17 7:50am

I like this article and agree with it that more competition is necessary.

Nathanael Greene

9/20/17 9:57am

FIFY:Net Neutrality is good for customers and society and bad for greedy

BYUtka

9/20/17 7:59am

Stupid poor millennials with their shady websites!

douglasturtle

9/20/17 9:02am

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about

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