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Dec 6, 2017
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ToasterChive
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Everything you point out is the same reason why Ty Detmer was fired.
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For those who are on the "Fire Cahoon" train...
fredetteaboutit13
12/6/17 9:14am
Bad technique. Guys still turning their hands the wrong way to get the ball.
byubyu
12/6/17 9:17am
These are the responses I want to hear. I don't know what to look for when
fredetteaboutit13
12/6/17 9:18am
the answer is this simple
Jimmy Rocket
12/6/17 11:19am
So you don't think he should be let go?
fredetteaboutit13
12/6/17 12:51pm
players dropped a lot of balls this year
Jimmy Rocket
12/6/17 1:27pm
He is teaching the guys to turn their hands the wrong way?
Triggerhappybunny
12/6/17 9:19am
Either that or he's not getting them to turn them the right way.
byubyu
12/6/17 9:21am
That's something you literally learn in Jr. High football.
Triggerhappybunny
12/6/17 9:22am
Isn't that sort of the point? I seriously saw these WRs do things this year
GOR
12/6/17 11:06am
I’ll bite. Give me examples...
J-Rant
12/6/17 12:38pm
I did below
GOR
12/6/17 12:55pm
What if the ball isn't coming at them where they expect it to be? Just as much
TheLoneCougar
12/6/17 9:22am
Then they adjust. Not every throw is on the numbers.
Mike Honcho
12/6/17 9:25am
This is ground breaking coaching stuff. How do we get this info to the WRs?
Triggerhappybunny
12/6/17 9:33am
Dunno. LoneCougar seems to think that the ball not being in a 1’x1’ window or so
Mike Honcho
12/6/17 8:21pm
Clearly, but that isn't the Pro Style/West Coast system that Ty has been trying
TheLoneCougar
12/6/17 9:44am
Yeah the timing has to be right and the ball has to be there, but whether the
Mike Honcho
12/6/17 8:20pm
default technique is thumbs in, pinkies in is only when it is below your numbers
g$
12/6/17 11:59am
His charges perform poorly.
Archaea
12/6/17 12:27pm
We eat our own and won't stop until every great ex-player hates BYU.
Triggerhappybunny
12/6/17 9:20am
We need to stop assuming that good players will make good coaches
Mike Honcho
12/6/17 9:25am
I agree. I also think Cahoon is much better than he is given credit for
Triggerhappybunny
12/6/17 9:29am
When he's fired, the proof will be in the pudding.
byubyu
12/6/17 10:25am
Everyone on cb needs to read your post.
conflictedcoug
12/6/17 9:37am
We also need to stop assuming our BYU football heros make great coaches
CougarCanuck76
12/6/17 9:42am
Hm. Five people have me on ignore. I think I just found out who one of them is.
Mike Honcho
12/6/17 10:41am
Position coaches are only as good as the talent they can recruit in.
CB4
12/6/17 9:28am
4.3 speed at BYU from multiple WRs???? Sorry Ben, but CHOOOCHOOOO>>>
CougarCanuck76
12/6/17 9:41am
You are putting blame on Cahoon that should be put on Ty at this point.
TheLoneCougar
12/6/17 9:46am
Yup. We wasted Jonah's wheels for 2 years in a non functioning Westcoast O
fulano
12/6/17 10:00am
Great point re speed...
ZooBlue
12/6/17 11:38am
Let’s be honest: 98% of CB has no idea what “proper WR technique” is
SJS
12/6/17 9:44am
This is why I am looking for specifics from those people as to why he should be
fredetteaboutit13
12/6/17 9:47am
Just as with Ty, you look at the product on the field.
FatherOFive
12/6/17 9:58am
Talon Shumway might be the whitest name ever.
CrimsonCardinal
12/6/17 10:03am
Whiter than say John Smith? I think not. And who cares anyway?
FiveTen-BuckEighty
12/6/17 10:06am
I've never known of another talon, white or black. I guess it's sort of a cool name. I've never heard of a black Shumway
Brisco
12/6/17 12:10pm
I take it back, Remington Peck is the whitest name.
CrimsonCardinal
12/6/17 7:19pm
Route running was garbage. Technique to get separation was not there.
Adrielle
12/6/17 10:17am
Not one Cahoon critic has...
J-Rant
12/6/17 10:37am
Ok you just said Cahoon has been a "solid WR coach". Where is your data?
GOR
12/6/17 11:10am
you're right and you're wrong
Jimmy Rocket
12/6/17 11:24am
Holliday is not a better teacher of WR technique than Cahoon.
cougarnw
12/6/17 11:07am
If you can get higher caliber guys in the first place
Lip Gallagher
12/6/17 7:02pm
Byu never has world beaters at WR, yet they've made do in the past.
LifelongAP
12/6/17 11:27am
Yet, as Canuck76 points out above, we had rare speed this year... bummer...
ZooBlue
12/6/17 11:42am
Here are some anecdotal specifics
GOR
12/6/17 11:40am
couple of good points
g$
12/6/17 12:21pm
Totally agree. The effort issue can't be placed squarely on Cahoon.
GOR
12/6/17 12:57pm
I agree with most of your points, but I keep wondering everytime its brought
cdr88
12/6/17 1:03pm
Add, "Not coming back to the ball on stop/hitch routes"
Accipiter
12/6/17 1:28pm
Blackmon was amazing with that. Kurtz was pretty good as well.
Lip Gallagher
12/6/17 7:04pm
Of course it's coaching. You can coach passion and intensity. You can bring that
Ash
12/6/17 2:19pm
Did you watch the WRs during his tenure now at the school as well as his first
kimdaddy35
12/6/17 12:02pm
Lazy sloppy routes, looking clueless as to what read to make ..... those should be coachable things.
Dillinger
12/6/17 12:09pm
Everything you point out is the same reason why Ty Detmer was fired.
ToasterChive
12/6/17 12:10pm
Here's Just One Random Young Opinion
YsTanman11
12/6/17 12:39pm
Do you think it's a lack of humility? If you look for answers (pay) someone
cdr88
12/6/17 1:11pm
You bring up a very valid and interesting point
YsTanman11
12/6/17 1:19pm
Then did our WR's struggle to get separation and never learned to come back to
ManicBlue
12/6/17 1:51pm
Curious if you have been to any of the receiver tech camps
g$
12/6/17 2:28pm
I think Mahe should leave before Cahoon
stev
12/6/17 12:46pm
It's not all on him, sure
Byu_1988
12/6/17 1:11pm
What are you talking about? Those WR's are all household names!
Ash
12/6/17 2:15pm
The level of competition gets credit for Squallys breakout 2nd half.
Gerald-DeGroot
12/6/17 2:30pm
Cahoon had a poor record before, got fired, Guy Holliday is brought in
Circaman12
12/6/17 6:23pm
Awful technique two straight years, not separation, poor catching abilities
Y4LYFE
12/6/17 7:24pm
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