I think stake/ward leaders are often so focused on other things they forget this

Jan 20, 2018
12:08:08pm

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They see sports as unnecessary to the church, and it's not on the same level as covenants and ordinances, but relationships were one of Hinckley's 3 keys to staying active ... and sports is one of the major ways men form relationships.

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Do you still have church Bball in your Stake? If not, why not?

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:20am

For us...not enough people interested...and nobody desires to ref.

WJCougar

1/20/18 10:21am

You know for a fact that there aren't enough people interested?

CougarBacker

1/20/18 11:57am

You call BS?

WJCougar

1/20/18 2:54pm

You must have missed where I said that it needs to be organized better

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:07pm

Like I said....you don't attend my Stake.

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:17pm

Yeah, very little interest in my stake too

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:23pm

Everything I said goes for your stake too then

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:27pm

There are like 4 guys in my ward who like sports

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:32pm

You know it's possible to combine wards right? It's okay to get creative

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:35pm

We have 5 wards, ours might be the biggest

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:37pm

Because I have been a coordinating council director for 15 years

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:40pm

Idk man. My previous ward could fill 3 teams of ten. This one is just different

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:44pm

They don't dissolve ward's based on basketball participation.

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:45pm

Well that's not even close to what I said. How bout you go back and reread it

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:52pm

Completely irrelevant. I guess you could always just continue to be a defeatist

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:24pm

Not everyone likes sports

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:33pm

Also irrelevant

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:35pm

Defeatist? LOL. Every stake/area is different.

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:33pm

Yeah I'd love to, but that would sort of be against the rules considering Im not

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:37pm

If you really want to organize something....

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:44pm

Jeez where do you guys live? I lived in Taylorsville, Magna, West Jordan and

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:48pm

Lol...of course you have no issues organizing in Herriman.

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:50pm

I moved to Herriman 2 months ago. I was the Coordinating Council Director

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:53pm

Congrats on your successful coordination.

WJCougar

1/20/18 3:58pm

Thanks! No theories then?

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:59pm

I'm going to organize volleyball based on your theory...

WJCougar

1/20/18 4:05pm

Good luck! Sounds like you've got it all figured out. One little hint for ya

CougarBacker

1/20/18 5:56pm

Nope...I'll follow your lead of organizing something nobody wants to do.

WJCougar

1/20/18 7:13pm

Doesn't sound like youre following my lead at all. You're being purposely obtuse

CougarBacker

1/20/18 9:19pm

I’m Stake Athletic Director

Dbl Nickel

1/20/18 5:01pm

Then you are doing it wrong according to Cougarbreaker.

WJCougar

1/20/18 7:14pm

Yep he is. I can tell by his post. But hey keep being obtuse about it rather

CougarBacker

1/20/18 9:21pm

Yes. My post tells you I am doing it wrong.

Dbl Nickel

1/20/18 9:46pm

I can tell you the first step is to change your attitude. The 2nd step is

CougarBacker

1/20/18 10:12pm

Ha. I don’t think I can work harder.

Dbl Nickel

1/20/18 11:18pm

Maybe not harder, but sounds like you could definitely work smarter

CougarBacker

1/20/18 11:26pm

They all do. Just not in Stake a ball. Ask them.

Dbl Nickel

1/20/18 9:44pm

Have you tried combining wards? All it takes is a waiver.

CougarBacker

1/20/18 10:13pm

We don’t play region so wouldn’t need waivers

Dbl Nickel

1/20/18 11:19pm

Anytime you are combining ward teams, you need a waiver regardless of region

CougarBacker

1/20/18 11:27pm

Does your stake still have an Athletic Director?

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

1/20/18 10:21am

No, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be hard to call one

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:22am

You might just want to set up some pick up games. Get the word out to other ward

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

1/20/18 10:24am

That’s a great idea. You could even have unofficial ward vs ward games

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:29am

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hansel

1/20/18 10:22am

That’s awesome! I really miss it

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:23am

Same here in Atlanta—maybe not as intense: men’s, women’s, YW, YM, deacons

SwisshQiumi

1/20/18 1:43pm

No; the low participation level isn't worth the time, effort and bad feelings

ColoSpgs

1/20/18 10:25am

Exact same story in our stake! 😉

cougfanblue

1/20/18 10:39am

You can point directly to bad leadership in your sports program for that problem

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:26pm

Actually, it’s because of a bunch of deadbeats who don’t care about sports at all.

cougfanblue

1/20/18 4:53pm

Highly doubt it. But hey with that attitude, I'm positive it won't change

CougarBacker

1/20/18 9:23pm

LOL.

cougfanblue

1/20/18 9:24pm

Yay go defeatists! Let's just pretend there's nothing we can do. Much easier

CougarBacker

1/20/18 9:37pm

Maybe we should start esport leagues.

TN_Coug

1/20/18 10:26am

Ours does, as well as semi-organized softball in the summer.

Ocho Cuatro

1/20/18 10:31am

No. SP didn't like the occasional fights and ended the program.

Radioactive Coug

1/20/18 10:33am

Seems like rather than ban it as many SPs do, it could be teaching op

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:34am

YM yes, Adult no more. I’m not sure why but I’ve heard our SP is against it

A Drew Aitch

1/20/18 10:34am

My stake does. I didn't play for about 20 years until last year.

Belboz

1/20/18 10:35am

Absolutely. This is what I think it’s a good thing to have it

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:38am

yes and it is a great

Richw

1/20/18 10:37am

That is phenomenal. My feelings exactly. I know many who are “church b-ball”

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:44am

In last two stakes SP shut it down

B Blue

1/20/18 10:38am

I think it's because some wards dominate based on demographics but dumb to ban

NSFW

1/20/18 6:20pm

Why not just do pick-up games or play in a rec league? Not a fan of another

Ulysses14

1/20/18 10:38am

It my former Stake it was banned because of High Councilors and Bishopric members fighting and swearing.

Rhino84

1/20/18 10:42am

Seems like the SP is getting rid of a good tool to help him identify punks

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:48am

Just highly competive guys who were great examples and people when not on the BB floor.

Rhino84

1/20/18 11:04am

So these “great men” are incapable of controlling themselves on the court? Ok

Run-DMT

1/20/18 11:12am

That is typical of Utah church basketball

WJCougar

1/20/18 7:19pm

Yes...2 month league plus tournament at end

nashty

1/20/18 10:42am

Wow that’s awesome. Good participation?

Run-DMT

1/20/18 10:45am

Yep. Almost every ward. 2 team up but others field a team

nashty

1/20/18 11:38am

We need Church sports because it's one of the only times men talk to each other

runnincoug

1/20/18 10:49am

Agree 100%. I don’t like making small talk, but small talk is required at

Duke Silver

1/20/18 11:12am

I think stake/ward leaders are often so focused on other things they forget this

runnincoug

1/20/18 12:08pm

I don't see why it needs to be a formal program

Ulysses14

1/20/18 12:16pm

It doesn't need to be. It can be as simple as organizing days/times, providing a

runnincoug

1/20/18 12:18pm

That's my preferred way to do it. Once you start adding refs, jerseys, fans, and

Ulysses14

1/20/18 12:30pm

Because most competitive people wouldn't be interested in such a program

CougarBacker

1/20/18 2:25pm

Plenty of competitive people show up for pick up games

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:23pm

Sure some do. But if guys really want competitive, they'll go play rec league

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:25pm

Weird. You must not have many competitive people in your ward if they won't even

Ulysses14

1/20/18 3:34pm

Nice straw man. That's not what I said at all

CougarBacker

1/20/18 3:41pm

That is Rich coming from you today.

WJCougar

1/20/18 11:18pm

Uh okay

CougarBacker

1/20/18 11:28pm

Shouldn't you be working on that volleyball league?

CougarBacker

1/20/18 11:29pm

Already done....from the advice you gave yesterday...300 people signed up.

WJCougar

1/21/18 7:39am

Awesome looks like your obtuseness is paying off already. Keep it up! With your

CougarBacker

1/21/18 9:10am

I’m a stake athletic director.

mobomanjoe

1/20/18 10:54am

I’d be happy to help out if the SP would bring back stake sports

Run-DMT

1/20/18 11:11am

Like most things in the church, few will volunteer, but they will respond to

runnincoug

1/20/18 12:12pm

I think we did last year. My b-ball days were over two knee surgeries ago.

Wedgetail

1/20/18 11:51am

Discontinued because of the hot heads and fights - often the leaders.

bluebooks

1/20/18 12:11pm

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