RE: Okay explain how we make up the difference between getting $1.1/yr for the

Mar 12, 2018
6:49:30am

argus Starter

Whether joining a conference makes sense is different from the narrow question of whether BYU's current schedules would prevent BYU from joining a G5 conference even if they wanted to do so.

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So it's clear, seems like going to the MWC or AAC in football isn't an option

byujdmba

3/11/18 10:47pm

You're basing all this on BYU not being able to get out of games?

shakarocks

3/11/18 10:55pm

I don't see the Y ponying up millions to get out of games.

byujdmba

3/11/18 11:08pm

They won't need to pay much (if anything).

argus

3/11/18 11:35pm

Okay explain how we make up the difference between getting $1.1/yr for the MWC

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:41pm

RE: Okay explain how we make up the difference between getting $1.1/yr for the

argus

3/12/18 6:49am

We don't need to

shakarocks

3/12/18 8:39am

RE: We don't need to

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:29am

You're right...we are the Sisters of the Poor

shakarocks

3/12/18 10:13am

LOL you can't possibly believe for one second that BYU administration is going

CougarBacker

3/12/18 10:39am

You're right

shakarocks

3/12/18 10:54am

You must be pretty young and not remember what happened with the MWC last time

CougarBacker

3/12/18 11:31am

I was alive for the WAC and MWC

shakarocks

3/12/18 12:05pm

LOL no they're not

CougarBacker

3/12/18 12:22pm

The total tv deal for all BYU sports is $4.7 million.

displacedute

3/12/18 3:20pm

BYUtv does not bring big money to BYU sports.

boscatar

3/12/18 3:23pm

You're wrong about BYUtv along with your revenue numbers. The revenue isn't

BYUButters

3/12/18 3:31pm

I took the $4.7 million directly from BYU's own publication

displacedute

3/12/18 3:42pm

Agree to disagree. The premium for Sports Stations is still good content.

BYUButters

3/12/18 4:08pm

Your rating numbers last year were below average.

displacedute

3/12/18 4:12pm

Lol I love how you just assume worst case scenario. Once a yewt always a yewt

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:21pm

Even if you win 10 games, your home tv ratings are going to be bad.

displacedute

3/12/18 11:23pm

Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/12/18 11:31pm

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/12/18 11:33pm

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:02am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 10:06am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:11am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 10:15am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:16am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 10:20am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:24am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 10:46am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:52am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 11:25am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

CougarBacker

3/13/18 11:31am

RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to

displacedute

3/13/18 11:49am

Utah has its problems with the Basketball coach under a criminal investigation

Richbyu

3/12/18 9:25pm

RE: Utah has its problems with the Basketball coach under a criminal

displacedute

3/12/18 11:21pm

Tell that to the FBI. They won't dismiss the bribes to Kuzma.

Richbyu

3/13/18 7:54am

From Utah's Head Coach? I think not. Look at it again.

displacedute

3/13/18 10:06am

The FBI won't ignore it!

Richbyu

3/13/18 11:45am

Won't ignore what?

displacedute

3/13/18 12:13pm

Spin all you want, but the media reports say otherwise

Richbyu

3/13/18 1:08pm

I agree that the FBI investigation is a big deal.

displacedute

3/13/18 3:04pm

Yet they were really good for our record; ESPN was still very pleased.Your move.

BYUButters

3/13/18 3:43pm

LOL you think that a BYU in the MWC is better for Utah? That's rich actually

CougarBacker

3/12/18 3:30pm

No, I think independent BYU is best for Utah.

displacedute

3/12/18 3:40pm

Not like it would kill it in the mwc. Yewt fans would love nothing more than

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:26pm

Like I said, I hope the administration listens to you.

displacedute

3/12/18 11:24pm

And you would get even more from a MWC BYU. I see through your tripe

CougarBacker

3/12/18 11:32pm

RE: And you would get even more from a MWC BYU. I see through your tripe

displacedute

3/12/18 11:35pm

And we get a lot of joy from the fact that Utah has never won a national

Richbyu

3/13/18 7:56am

Check again.

displacedute

3/13/18 10:09am

LOL! That was a Priests Quorum from Salt Lake playing "Ward Ball".

Richbyu

3/13/18 1:17pm

Yes. Go look at the list of titles. Utah's got one.

displacedute

3/13/18 3:05pm

A "Ward Ball" NIT Championship during WWII?

Richbyu

3/13/18 3:10pm

Utah has won two men's championships in basketball.

displacedute

3/13/18 3:15pm

Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships

Richbyu

3/14/18 9:36am

RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships

displacedute

3/14/18 10:14am

RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships

Richbyu

3/14/18 10:18am

RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships

displacedute

3/14/18 10:20am

BYU’s not in the business on breaking contracts and burning relationship equity.

BYUButters

3/12/18 12:13am

relationship equity??? that was gone in 90's

dizthewiz

3/12/18 1:41am

Joining a conference does neither

shakarocks

3/12/18 8:40am

Cancelling for going to a worse situation for less money will burn relationships

BYUButters

3/12/18 11:39am

Worse relationship? That's merely an opinion

shakarocks

3/12/18 7:10pm

So is yours. Difference is yours is a really really bad one

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:28pm

Mine's informed

shakarocks

3/12/18 9:29pm

Pretty sure BYU administration (You know the people paid to make these decisions

CougarBacker

3/12/18 10:31pm

HAHAHAHAHA

shakarocks

3/12/18 11:23pm

Kicked around does not equal actually going to do it. They are smart enough to

CougarBacker

3/12/18 11:33pm

So....

shakarocks

3/13/18 10:08am

Yeah you're right about your first sentence actually. My opinion is almost

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:16am

I've already spilled it

shakarocks

3/13/18 10:19am

Right and I'm supposed to believe you because..........

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:24am

Well not to mention the loss in revenue, TV exposure, recruiting hit and

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:15pm

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CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:15pm

What recruiting hit? It hasn't changed since we left.

molodyets

3/11/18 11:17pm

If we go back to the MWC, we are no longer competing with Utah for in state kids

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:22pm

We already aren't going after them in the same way

molodyets

3/11/18 11:29pm

Nope we still get some of the top guys in Utah. We don't get them all like we

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:34pm

Going back in basketball is not crawling back. Had they let

molodyets

3/11/18 11:54pm

The issue isn't basketball though. I'm perfectly fine going back to the MWC for

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:31am

Not really.

displacedute

3/12/18 3:39pm

Thanks for proving my point for me. We still get a few just like I said we do

CougarBacker

3/12/18 9:29pm

most of those kids would have come even if BYU was in the MWC.

displacedute

3/12/18 11:25pm

Highly doubt it. No reason to

CougarBacker

3/12/18 11:33pm

They have the exact same reasons when you're Indy as they would when you're MWC

displacedute

3/13/18 10:15am

Incorrect! There are significantly more reasons that a kid would come to BYU

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:17am

If you want to link a post, that might help.

displacedute

3/13/18 10:28am

Maybe maybe not. I highly doubt it though. A move to the MWC does several things

CougarBacker

3/13/18 10:38am

I mentioned money above.

displacedute

3/13/18 11:09am

Except that you're dismissing the fact that BYU tried to get a similar TV deal

CougarBacker

3/13/18 11:23am

I'm not dismissing it.

displacedute

3/13/18 11:48am

How is it a dirty Ute gets it

shakarocks

3/13/18 11:59am

Sorry man, I'm not making your job any easier.

displacedute

3/13/18 12:03pm

You might want to ask yourself if you're on the right side of the fence with

CougarBacker

3/13/18 12:10pm

Not necessary

shakarocks

3/13/18 12:13pm

Nope when every single dirty yewt is claiming the best thing for BYU to do is go

CougarBacker

3/13/18 1:34pm

Whatevs

shakarocks

3/13/18 2:14pm

The debate isn't about going P5. It's about Indy vs. MWC. The hierarchy hasn't

CougarBacker

3/13/18 2:27pm

Now show me how many times every other MWC team is on ESPN/ABC

CougarBacker

3/13/18 12:13pm

Dude, I gave you 4 years of TV.

displacedute

3/13/18 12:15pm

Why are you assuming the mwc members would vote to give BYU the same setup

CougarBacker

3/13/18 12:44pm

Because BYU would strengthen the leauge

shakarocks

3/13/18 1:03pm

So you think somehow going back to the MWC, BYU would be able to broker a deal

CougarBacker

3/13/18 1:32pm

We probably will not get as much

shakarocks

3/13/18 2:12pm

See you're assuming again. Why are you assuming that ESPN pays us less?

CougarBacker

3/13/18 2:28pm

You're the one who dropped business principles above

shakarocks

3/13/18 2:46pm

Explain how our brand "has taken a hit". One bad season destroyed our brand?

CougarBacker

3/13/18 3:13pm

You make about $1.5 million more now than Boise on TV.

displacedute

3/13/18 3:14pm

The only people who think our TV deal is about to get significantly worse are

CougarBacker

3/13/18 3:25pm

If I thought my winning the award was the pathway to more money, yes.

displacedute

3/13/18 3:38pm

Once again you're assuming that BYU going back to the MWC makes them a contendor

CougarBacker

3/13/18 4:32pm

You mean like how they consider Fresno a P5?

molodyets

3/11/18 11:20pm

Uh no! You do the math. Why do you think they said they would count Fresno that

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:25pm

What makes you think non-football in the mwc and aac is an option?

Josef K

3/11/18 10:57pm

Don't know that it is. The point is I think football is not an option.

byujdmba

3/11/18 11:09pm

How the WCC can save itself, and BYU stay Indy and in the WCC:

Richbyu

3/11/18 11:05pm

Nice out-of-the-box option. Not sure 2 public state schools would fit well

boscatar

3/12/18 10:59am

SJSU, Fresno St, Nevada, UNLV and UCSB were all members of the WCC in the past.

molodyets

3/12/18 11:12am

True, but you have to get in the wayback machine to find them.

displacedute

3/12/18 3:46pm

Come on. You can do better than that...

TrueBlue67

3/11/18 11:14pm

RE: Come on. You can do better than that...

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:16pm

Allegedly.....

TrueBlue67

3/11/18 11:17pm

Allegedly? Uh no. No allegedly. We make significantly more money and have

CougarBacker

3/11/18 11:26pm

Here is some info. MWC games are on CBS Sports and ESPN. Each team makes $1.1M per year with it.

Turnpike Lane

3/12/18 9:02am

Ummm...I'm not advocating going back to the MWC. I'd rather shut down BYU

TrueBlue67

3/12/18 10:44pm

I get annoyed with the emotional noise for going to a G5 conference in FB.

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