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Mar 13, 2018
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The debate isn't about going P5. It's about Indy vs. MWC. The hierarchy hasn't
changed. It's still P5>>>>>Indy>>>>>>MWC
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So it's clear, seems like going to the MWC or AAC in football isn't an option
byujdmba
3/11/18 10:47pm
You're basing all this on BYU not being able to get out of games?
shakarocks
3/11/18 10:55pm
I don't see the Y ponying up millions to get out of games.
byujdmba
3/11/18 11:08pm
They won't need to pay much (if anything).
argus
3/11/18 11:35pm
Okay explain how we make up the difference between getting $1.1/yr for the MWC
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:41pm
RE: Okay explain how we make up the difference between getting $1.1/yr for the
argus
3/12/18 6:49am
We don't need to
shakarocks
3/12/18 8:39am
RE: We don't need to
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:29am
You're right...we are the Sisters of the Poor
shakarocks
3/12/18 10:13am
LOL you can't possibly believe for one second that BYU administration is going
CougarBacker
3/12/18 10:39am
You're right
shakarocks
3/12/18 10:54am
You must be pretty young and not remember what happened with the MWC last time
CougarBacker
3/12/18 11:31am
I was alive for the WAC and MWC
shakarocks
3/12/18 12:05pm
LOL no they're not
CougarBacker
3/12/18 12:22pm
The total tv deal for all BYU sports is $4.7 million.
displacedute
3/12/18 3:20pm
BYUtv does not bring big money to BYU sports.
boscatar
3/12/18 3:23pm
You're wrong about BYUtv along with your revenue numbers. The revenue isn't
BYUButters
3/12/18 3:31pm
I took the $4.7 million directly from BYU's own publication
displacedute
3/12/18 3:42pm
Agree to disagree. The premium for Sports Stations is still good content.
BYUButters
3/12/18 4:08pm
Your rating numbers last year were below average.
displacedute
3/12/18 4:12pm
Lol I love how you just assume worst case scenario. Once a yewt always a yewt
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:21pm
Even if you win 10 games, your home tv ratings are going to be bad.
displacedute
3/12/18 11:23pm
Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/12/18 11:31pm
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/12/18 11:33pm
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:02am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 10:06am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:11am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 10:15am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:16am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 10:20am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:24am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 10:46am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:52am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 11:25am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
CougarBacker
3/13/18 11:31am
RE: Yeah you should just keep believing that yewt tripe. It's what you want to
displacedute
3/13/18 11:49am
Utah has its problems with the Basketball coach under a criminal investigation
Richbyu
3/12/18 9:25pm
RE: Utah has its problems with the Basketball coach under a criminal
displacedute
3/12/18 11:21pm
Tell that to the FBI. They won't dismiss the bribes to Kuzma.
Richbyu
3/13/18 7:54am
From Utah's Head Coach? I think not. Look at it again.
displacedute
3/13/18 10:06am
The FBI won't ignore it!
Richbyu
3/13/18 11:45am
Won't ignore what?
displacedute
3/13/18 12:13pm
Spin all you want, but the media reports say otherwise
Richbyu
3/13/18 1:08pm
I agree that the FBI investigation is a big deal.
displacedute
3/13/18 3:04pm
Yet they were really good for our record; ESPN was still very pleased.Your move.
BYUButters
3/13/18 3:43pm
LOL you think that a BYU in the MWC is better for Utah? That's rich actually
CougarBacker
3/12/18 3:30pm
No, I think independent BYU is best for Utah.
displacedute
3/12/18 3:40pm
Not like it would kill it in the mwc. Yewt fans would love nothing more than
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:26pm
Like I said, I hope the administration listens to you.
displacedute
3/12/18 11:24pm
And you would get even more from a MWC BYU. I see through your tripe
CougarBacker
3/12/18 11:32pm
RE: And you would get even more from a MWC BYU. I see through your tripe
displacedute
3/12/18 11:35pm
And we get a lot of joy from the fact that Utah has never won a national
Richbyu
3/13/18 7:56am
Check again.
displacedute
3/13/18 10:09am
LOL! That was a Priests Quorum from Salt Lake playing "Ward Ball".
Richbyu
3/13/18 1:17pm
Yes. Go look at the list of titles. Utah's got one.
displacedute
3/13/18 3:05pm
A "Ward Ball" NIT Championship during WWII?
Richbyu
3/13/18 3:10pm
Utah has won two men's championships in basketball.
displacedute
3/13/18 3:15pm
Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships
Richbyu
3/14/18 9:36am
RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships
displacedute
3/14/18 10:14am
RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships
Richbyu
3/14/18 10:18am
RE: Utah has won 2 Ward Ball Championships
displacedute
3/14/18 10:20am
BYU’s not in the business on breaking contracts and burning relationship equity.
BYUButters
3/12/18 12:13am
relationship equity??? that was gone in 90's
dizthewiz
3/12/18 1:41am
Joining a conference does neither
shakarocks
3/12/18 8:40am
Cancelling for going to a worse situation for less money will burn relationships
BYUButters
3/12/18 11:39am
Worse relationship? That's merely an opinion
shakarocks
3/12/18 7:10pm
So is yours. Difference is yours is a really really bad one
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:28pm
Mine's informed
shakarocks
3/12/18 9:29pm
Pretty sure BYU administration (You know the people paid to make these decisions
CougarBacker
3/12/18 10:31pm
HAHAHAHAHA
shakarocks
3/12/18 11:23pm
Kicked around does not equal actually going to do it. They are smart enough to
CougarBacker
3/12/18 11:33pm
So....
shakarocks
3/13/18 10:08am
Yeah you're right about your first sentence actually. My opinion is almost
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:16am
I've already spilled it
shakarocks
3/13/18 10:19am
Right and I'm supposed to believe you because..........
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:24am
Well not to mention the loss in revenue, TV exposure, recruiting hit and
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:15pm
<< Deleted >>
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:15pm
What recruiting hit? It hasn't changed since we left.
molodyets
3/11/18 11:17pm
If we go back to the MWC, we are no longer competing with Utah for in state kids
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:22pm
We already aren't going after them in the same way
molodyets
3/11/18 11:29pm
Nope we still get some of the top guys in Utah. We don't get them all like we
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:34pm
Going back in basketball is not crawling back. Had they let
molodyets
3/11/18 11:54pm
The issue isn't basketball though. I'm perfectly fine going back to the MWC for
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:31am
Not really.
displacedute
3/12/18 3:39pm
Thanks for proving my point for me. We still get a few just like I said we do
CougarBacker
3/12/18 9:29pm
most of those kids would have come even if BYU was in the MWC.
displacedute
3/12/18 11:25pm
Highly doubt it. No reason to
CougarBacker
3/12/18 11:33pm
They have the exact same reasons when you're Indy as they would when you're MWC
displacedute
3/13/18 10:15am
Incorrect! There are significantly more reasons that a kid would come to BYU
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:17am
If you want to link a post, that might help.
displacedute
3/13/18 10:28am
Maybe maybe not. I highly doubt it though. A move to the MWC does several things
CougarBacker
3/13/18 10:38am
I mentioned money above.
displacedute
3/13/18 11:09am
Except that you're dismissing the fact that BYU tried to get a similar TV deal
CougarBacker
3/13/18 11:23am
I'm not dismissing it.
displacedute
3/13/18 11:48am
How is it a dirty Ute gets it
shakarocks
3/13/18 11:59am
Sorry man, I'm not making your job any easier.
displacedute
3/13/18 12:03pm
You might want to ask yourself if you're on the right side of the fence with
CougarBacker
3/13/18 12:10pm
Not necessary
shakarocks
3/13/18 12:13pm
Nope when every single dirty yewt is claiming the best thing for BYU to do is go
CougarBacker
3/13/18 1:34pm
Whatevs
shakarocks
3/13/18 2:14pm
The debate isn't about going P5. It's about Indy vs. MWC. The hierarchy hasn't
CougarBacker
3/13/18 2:27pm
Now show me how many times every other MWC team is on ESPN/ABC
CougarBacker
3/13/18 12:13pm
Dude, I gave you 4 years of TV.
displacedute
3/13/18 12:15pm
Why are you assuming the mwc members would vote to give BYU the same setup
CougarBacker
3/13/18 12:44pm
Because BYU would strengthen the leauge
shakarocks
3/13/18 1:03pm
So you think somehow going back to the MWC, BYU would be able to broker a deal
CougarBacker
3/13/18 1:32pm
We probably will not get as much
shakarocks
3/13/18 2:12pm
See you're assuming again. Why are you assuming that ESPN pays us less?
CougarBacker
3/13/18 2:28pm
You're the one who dropped business principles above
shakarocks
3/13/18 2:46pm
Explain how our brand "has taken a hit". One bad season destroyed our brand?
CougarBacker
3/13/18 3:13pm
You make about $1.5 million more now than Boise on TV.
displacedute
3/13/18 3:14pm
The only people who think our TV deal is about to get significantly worse are
CougarBacker
3/13/18 3:25pm
If I thought my winning the award was the pathway to more money, yes.
displacedute
3/13/18 3:38pm
Once again you're assuming that BYU going back to the MWC makes them a contendor
CougarBacker
3/13/18 4:32pm
You mean like how they consider Fresno a P5?
molodyets
3/11/18 11:20pm
Uh no! You do the math. Why do you think they said they would count Fresno that
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:25pm
What makes you think non-football in the mwc and aac is an option?
Josef K
3/11/18 10:57pm
Don't know that it is. The point is I think football is not an option.
byujdmba
3/11/18 11:09pm
How the WCC can save itself, and BYU stay Indy and in the WCC:
Richbyu
3/11/18 11:05pm
Nice out-of-the-box option. Not sure 2 public state schools would fit well
boscatar
3/12/18 10:59am
SJSU, Fresno St, Nevada, UNLV and UCSB were all members of the WCC in the past.
molodyets
3/12/18 11:12am
True, but you have to get in the wayback machine to find them.
displacedute
3/12/18 3:46pm
Come on. You can do better than that...
TrueBlue67
3/11/18 11:14pm
RE: Come on. You can do better than that...
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:16pm
Allegedly.....
TrueBlue67
3/11/18 11:17pm
Allegedly? Uh no. No allegedly. We make significantly more money and have
CougarBacker
3/11/18 11:26pm
Here is some info. MWC games are on CBS Sports and ESPN. Each team makes $1.1M per year with it.
Turnpike Lane
3/12/18 9:02am
Ummm...I'm not advocating going back to the MWC. I'd rather shut down BYU
TrueBlue67
3/12/18 10:44pm
I get annoyed with the emotional noise for going to a G5 conference in FB.
BYUButters
3/12/18 12:15am
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