He’s not a bad kid. I assume he didn’t think he was stealing a vehicle when in

May 26, 2018
8:47:39pm

Cougfourlife Walk-on

Fact he was. I don’t remember there being an intent requirement for that. But then again, it’s been a long time since I took crim law.

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An independent contractor for my company took a company car without asking permi

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 3:33pm

Did you know he had taken it, and contacted him about returning it? If you knew

BYU I Bleed Blue

5/26/18 3:41pm

We did not know until he called to tell us he wrecked it.

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:07pm

And this was the first (and will be the last) time.

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:08pm

First time taking it without permission? Or first time he or any other IC has

Non-donor troll

5/26/18 9:10pm

Does he not have his own insurance?

byubyu

5/26/18 3:43pm

typically the insurance on the vehicle is primary

BIG XII Coug

5/26/18 3:47pm

Good question. I’m sure he does.

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:17pm

His Mom?? Lol, silly millennial.

Tare

5/26/18 4:10pm

Yes. He’s like a 23 y.o. RM

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:18pm

How did he have access to the car? Sounds like he was more than an IC.

rcbyufan

5/26/18 4:17pm

Another person was driving the car. That person left the keys on the table and w

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:19pm

Is he really an independent contractor? In Nevada at least, most people who are

vegasnative

5/26/18 4:28pm

First... try and get insurance to pay for it... they often pay for this stuff.

ClackamasCoug

5/26/18 4:48pm

Nah, he’s gonna pay for it. I’m not interested in trying to convince them to cov

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:21pm

When he hit the deer... was he performing work for your company?

ClackamasCoug

5/26/18 11:56pm

I think it was midnight and he was getting food.

Cougfourlife

5/27/18 1:31am

Because "midnight" is the 5th meal.... I was trying to help the guy... but...

ClackamasCoug

5/27/18 9:06am

Why is his mother involved?

kccougar

5/26/18 5:11pm

Did you file a police report because he stole it? If not then use your

Joel Tilton

5/26/18 5:41pm

We didn’t know it was gone until he told us it was wrecked. I do not treat my

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:23pm

That seems strange that a 23 yr old RM would commit a felony.

Zach Morris

5/26/18 8:26pm

Ya, I dunno. My guess is he wasn’t thinking very clearly. Made a dumb mistake.

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:33pm

GTA isn't a "dumb mistake"

Fetchin Fetcher

5/26/18 8:40pm

He’s not a bad kid. I assume he didn’t think he was stealing a vehicle when in

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:47pm

I will put this bluntly. Legally you are wrong. 5 years experience as an

Joel Tilton

5/26/18 8:46pm

From your note above it’s clear your employees have access to the car. The

Joel Tilton

5/26/18 8:53pm

So accessible keys=permission? Interesting thought.

Cougfourlife

5/26/18 8:55pm

Yes. One more thing to be cautious of:

Joel Tilton

5/26/18 9:10pm

Yes. It is difficult to show non-permissive use. That is a good thing

Sandstone Cougar

5/26/18 10:10pm

You related to Robert Tilton?

CBaass

5/26/18 9:01pm

The televangelist? Haha, no.

Joel Tilton

5/26/18 9:11pm

If this is one of those deals where you’re hiring kids to

AF Cougar

5/26/18 5:44pm

He’s not an employee of yours, why was he given access to company vehicles?

mosterlow

5/26/18 7:55pm

What is your state's payroll deduction law for damaged equipment?

Sandstone Cougar

5/26/18 10:06pm

This thread has so many questions and so few answers.

crazY

5/27/18 10:22am

Couldn’t keep track of all of them. I guess I thought ppl would say:

Cougfourlife

5/27/18 6:40pm

Pro tip: when you post a question in CB, you don’t get to dictate the answers you get.

SJS

5/27/18 7:13pm

No question about that!

Cougfourlife

5/27/18 7:21pm

So, here's my question: stealing the car is a felony. Why not press charges?

crazY

5/27/18 8:47pm

He’s not a bad kid. He made a dumb mistake. Not going to do that to him.

Cougfourlife

5/27/18 9:07pm

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trjohnson007

5/27/18 10:51pm

In my opinion you should do two things:

UberDeek

5/28/18 12:01am

Thank you. That’s exactly what I’ll do. And you’re right, this is America.

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