I'm guessing it boils down to this:

Jul 10, 2018
11:27:35am

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Being pitched by a P5 school is far more exciting than being pitched by school that isn't. No matter how the message is actually delivered, the nuts and bolts of what a P5 school can say is just better.

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Just talked to a recruit that had BYU as #1. Said after his recruiting trip,

chazen

7/10/18 11:04am

Well, talk him back into it!

trom2foot3

7/10/18 11:05am

“Fool, you want your ego stroked or are you smart enough to talk with an alumnus

Q-grr

7/12/18 2:39pm

You should provide the feedback to the Coaches. Not every recruiting day goes

Archaea

7/10/18 11:09am

Please do this. Specifics so they can see or know where and fix it

SouthernBlueBlood

7/10/18 11:45am

yea because coaches really care what fans that arent involve tell them.

Swishfromdeep3

7/10/18 4:53pm

Two things: 1. You're wrong. 2. Who are you?

crazY

7/10/18 4:55pm

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Swishfromdeep3

7/10/18 5:17pm

Is BYU making efforts to get feedback on these visits so they can make the necessary improvements?

Indy Coug

7/10/18 11:09am

Interesting. That's how our football team looked last year as well. Just kinda

BlueForLife

7/10/18 11:09am

Interesting and probably accurate correlation.

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:11am

So true! Gotta make these experiences special cause you can make or break a

BlueForLife

7/10/18 11:17am

Yeah, not surprising

ballen

7/10/18 11:15am

we had a great team last year, just alot of injuries.

Byu_realist101

7/10/18 9:12pm

I believe this is a problem with the current regime

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:10am

I wouldn't expect recruiting trip organization falls on Kalani, but who?

viper

7/10/18 11:16am

That would be my guess, but Kalani is their boss.

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:19am

Yep. Kalani is ultimately responsible for nearly everything football related.

rainorsnow

7/10/18 11:26am

Everything within the football realm at BYU falls on Kalani

kimdaddy35

7/10/18 11:22am

Alema should be notified for sure

CarolinaCoug

7/10/18 11:34am

The buck stops with Kalani

CharlottesvilleCoug

7/10/18 12:45pm

Buck stops with Kalani, why not Tom?

viper

7/10/18 12:47pm

The girl soccer coach from UVU, no? Isn't that why they hired her?

COACHdrn

7/11/18 1:18am

Much ado about nothing I'd guess

HRCougar

7/10/18 11:11am

I would encourage the recruit to provide feedback or for chazen to do so.

Archaea

7/10/18 11:12am

I agree with this.

HRCougar

7/10/18 11:13am

The coaches want these visits to go smoothly and some of it will be

Archaea

7/10/18 11:14am

Have you heard the other stories lately?

CharlottesvilleCoug

7/10/18 12:46pm

Email Tom Holmoe

Ironhide

7/10/18 11:17am

Tom Holmoe needs to be the first to go...

Coug

7/10/18 11:30am

Actually - any feedback/surveys/research should be done by Holmoe.

Eddie

7/10/18 12:34pm

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East1999

7/10/18 2:58pm

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East1999

7/10/18 2:44pm

Do it!!

See It

7/10/18 4:59pm

Send in an email with your number, and chat with the staff about this. They need the feedback.

Turnpike Lane

7/10/18 11:17am

I don’t believe this. I’m just gonna do the right thing and wait for the authority on the

Zach Morris

7/10/18 11:22am

enjoy the angry BMs

TEXAS

7/10/18 2:35pm

I've had some angry BM's before...

abacaxi22

7/10/18 2:44pm

As have I, but only one in particular that throws a tantrum then asks for forced reciprocal ignore

TEXAS

7/10/18 4:08pm

This is not the only time this has happened. KS does not seem to know how

WizeGuise

7/10/18 11:24am

We got rid of some of our self inflicted recruiting day issues. Maybe this recruit had a bad time but I have no reason

monkeycowboy

7/10/18 11:25am

Maybe it was an off day. Or their focus was on EFY that day.

mudpupper

7/10/18 11:26am

I'm guessing it boils down to this:

Cougar Insider

7/10/18 11:27am

Disagree. BYU is usually much more professional than the Yewts in presentations.

CharlottesvilleCoug

7/10/18 12:48pm

????

Cougar Insider

7/10/18 2:24pm

Clearly

Solomon Levi

7/10/18 4:45pm

One thing to keep in mind, and I hope this recruit does, is that the way one is

gwalker

7/10/18 11:30am

Then tell Kalani and Alema . They cant fix it if they are umaware of it.

CarolinaCoug

7/10/18 11:31am

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SlantRoute

7/10/18 11:37am

In my opinion surveys are annoying. Receiving some survey about providing

RdF3

7/10/18 11:40am

Depends on how and when it’s administered. Doesn’t have to feel like a survey

SlantRoute

7/10/18 12:09pm

For a nominal fee, I'll gladly turn recruiting trips on campus into P5+ event.

Q-grr

7/10/18 11:36am

Tell him to choose wisely. I graduated from both. BIG difference on a personal a

miblue

7/10/18 11:44am

When was his visit? Was he asked to visit? Does he have an Offer?

TheLost

7/10/18 12:00pm

When was his recruiting visit?

Romex

7/10/18 12:20pm

Doesn’t this fall under Tasha Bell’s role on the staff?

Seasider

7/10/18 12:21pm

Yes

Romex

7/10/18 12:23pm

very subjective. Could be so many factors...all of which could be concerning

buckeyecougarguy

7/10/18 12:28pm

Didn't Bronco allege when LDS recruits don't choose BYU it's not because of...

icecougar

7/11/18 11:41am

i never heard him specifically say that, but its probably what came across

buckeyecougarguy

7/11/18 12:02pm

Bronco told my son to 'Pray' if BYU was right for him.

TheLost

7/11/18 12:11pm

quote

icecougar

7/11/18 12:13pm

Oh this is just fantastic.

Gerald-DeGroot

7/10/18 1:21pm

The real reason the Ute trip was better....

WJCougar

7/10/18 4:05pm

And provide tutors that do your homework (eg cheat)

kapcreations

7/10/18 5:22pm

we are missing on some big ones

Richw

7/10/18 5:41pm

What types of issues did you hear about?

1-Wing RCAF

7/10/18 6:13pm

RE: What types of issues did you hear about?

Richw

7/10/18 6:40pm

He may have had BYU as their #1, but clearly they do not have him as #1

kapcreations

7/10/18 5:21pm

Don't mention specifics like kids name, maybe just say D or O recruit

NSFW

7/10/18 6:01pm

That’s not how recruiting works

kapcreations

7/10/18 6:18pm

Great, another rumor that will now become CB gospel. I know the exact opposite

akmewg

7/10/18 8:32pm

Gunner was solid for BYU when they said they’d take Baylor as well.

Regal Ute

7/10/18 8:47pm

"Non-committal"

Rise Against

7/10/18 9:34pm

Don't just tell us. Tell someone in the football office.

RoyalPuma

7/10/18 9:24pm

There's only so much you can do with $10.

kiyoshige

7/10/18 11:36pm

I vaguely remember a story once from Jan Jorgensen about a recruiting trip...

Shore10

7/11/18 8:09am

I just recall he was a yewt flip over to BYU after the recruiting trip. common!

Desert Rat

7/11/18 8:16am

I think it was a trip to Kentucky.

Shore10

7/11/18 1:31pm

Sounds like somebody did not get an offer and is now miffed..

Chuckie2304

7/11/18 9:57am

Boardmail (or actually email) Kalani

AntiSNOT

7/11/18 10:49am

it happens. Manti Teo didn't have a great recruiting trip to BYU either

icecougar

7/11/18 11:33am

So you are mad at Bronco for his honesty

kimdaddy35

7/11/18 11:35am

no, just pointing out that this isn't a new thing and was prevalent with..

icecougar

7/11/18 12:12pm

Lavell coached at a very different BYU than Bronco did

kimdaddy35

7/11/18 12:20pm

Bronco pre-judged kids all the time...

icecougar

7/11/18 8:13pm

Keep making things up to make yourself feel better

kimdaddy35

7/12/18 11:40am

With all the suggestions you received on how to right the wrong, it is time to

Bullrider

7/11/18 2:06pm

BYU sports does not take itself seriously. Neither should we.

Ash

7/11/18 3:41pm

It is time for Chad Lewis to take over.

Q-grr

7/11/18 6:45pm

official trip or unofficial during the summer?

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