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Jul 13, 2018
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Tokolosh
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Yes, there were some fortunes of timing...
but after reading that article you can't discount the legwork and salesmanship that Young/Hill conducted in their own behalf and in favor of Colorado.
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Just thinking about when Utah and TCU were added to P5 conferences
BradioHead
7/13/18 1:58pm
There's a lot of ambiguity of what our chances really were in 2010. Was BYU
Windward_Coug
7/13/18 2:04pm
It isn't an AD failure, it is a President's Office and BOT failure
Nat Gas Man
7/13/18 2:05pm
Right, but will we ever get the real story? 2010 looks like it was our best
Windward_Coug
7/13/18 2:08pm
I for one don't think the real story will ever come out, because it would
Nat Gas Man
7/13/18 2:11pm
Agreed.... I'm afraid a certain character flaw had a negative trickle down effect
CLCougar
7/13/18 2:23pm
From what I understand Worthen was heavily involved in the 2010 flop
I'mBatman
7/13/18 2:58pm
Agree. The 247 Sports article highlights just how important
Everyman
7/13/18 2:30pm
Reading between the lines in that story, I dont think there is anything that the BOT or AD could have done differently
cheezedawg
7/13/18 2:57pm
There were lots of leaks about BYU's lawyers being pieces of work, requiring all sorts of crap.
mulletino
7/13/18 2:06pm
No humility
Nat Gas Man
7/13/18 2:07pm
Or maybe just an over-correction from the Mtn fiasco?
antiyewt
7/14/18 4:07pm
I think you are right. That and the unknown B12 issues at the time
Nat Gas Man
7/14/18 4:29pm
They didn't. They were never close in 2010.
molodyets
7/13/18 2:08pm
Hard to say.
mulletino
7/13/18 2:08pm
That’s a very hard stance to take considering byu was mentioned as the top target by ESPN and other
Zach Morris
7/13/18 2:59pm
Those comments came from the Big East
Everyman
7/13/18 2:21pm
^^^ This
fan_byu
7/13/18 2:35pm
Utah was willing to take no $ the first year, 50% the 2nd and 75% the third.
JasonJDelmonico
7/13/18 2:23pm
RE: Utah was willing to take no $ the first year, 50% the 2nd and 75% the third.
SCcoug
7/13/18 2:39pm
Ironically one of those lawyers is now president of BYU
Jersey hunter
7/13/18 2:47pm
Was Worthen really working on the negotiations?
Goliath
7/13/18 4:13pm
No.
NewMexiCoug
7/13/18 8:19pm
It wasn’t necessarily tv reassurances
I'mBatman
7/13/18 3:07pm
That’s the common theme adopted by the three
Everyman
7/13/18 3:12pm
Hence BYU’s failure.
Zach Morris
7/13/18 3:25pm
We were too used to being the top dog in conference, couldn't
CLCougar
7/13/18 3:36pm
Many fans could. CB was loaded with posters who knew what was on the line. And then
Zach Morris
7/13/18 4:26pm
RE this thread: fascinating how rumor evolves into folklore evolves into myth.
panguitch
7/13/18 11:19pm
If there was ever a verbal offer to BYU
BradioHead
7/13/18 2:20pm
We were just waiting for our Boaz
Goliath
7/13/18 2:31pm
Teams joining new conferences always phase in their share.
SCcoug
7/13/18 2:38pm
That’s the practice now, but I don’t think it was common
Everyman
7/14/18 7:29am
Nebraska and other new B1G schools took 6 years to phase into a full sh.
SCcoug
7/14/18 9:53am
The Big12 conference was on life support
I'mBatman
7/13/18 3:10pm
Even without taking TV $$ in the first year Utah made more money in their first
wcj99
7/13/18 4:01pm
Annual financial report indicates they received $5.2M.
Everyman
7/13/18 4:35pm
BYU was at the table...
Coug
7/13/18 3:24pm
That’s the story we here from time to time...the Big 12 was unstable so BYU didn’t make the jump...
Bonoman
7/13/18 11:55pm
Interesting of note in the article
BradioHead
7/13/18 2:36pm
Yes, there were some fortunes of timing...
Tokolosh
7/13/18 2:41pm
Can't help but agree with this. Also feel they were unshackled and
CLCougar
7/13/18 2:48pm
I mentioned that they had to convince the pac 12 to add them
BradioHead
7/13/18 2:53pm
Utah had also won a BCS game and was on the rise along with TCU...
Bonoman
7/13/18 3:09pm
And both Utah and TCU had substantially better Presidents who
CLCougar
7/13/18 3:34pm
We could let our drug/dui/women maltreatment players get away with it I suppose
Y4LYFE
7/13/18 3:06pm
How about not going into the 2011 B12 expansion like you are the big dog,
blackshirts
7/13/18 9:21pm
BYU declined the Big 12’s invite in ‘11. Big mistake.
Chet Donnelly
7/13/18 11:19pm
Not a big mistake... The program death mistake!! The legacy of TH.
blackshirts
7/14/18 8:06pm
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